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    {
    "name": "Zelda",
    "author": "Fegelein",
    "summary": "Original theme made by Tyrex has now been improved, with new roles, new sides, new actions and an awesome new experience. The people of Hyrule have many threats to defend themselves from. Old problems like the Gerudo and Wind Mage, and new ones like the Boss Coalition, and Majora. Have fun!",
    "sides": [
    {
    "side": "mafia1",
    "translation": "Wind Mage"
    },
    {
    "side": "mafia2",
    "translation": "Gerudo"
    },
    {
    "side": "village",
    "translation": "People of Hyrule"
    },
    {
    "side": "werewolf",
    "translation": "Majora and Skull Kid"
    },
    {
    "side": "godfather",
    "translation": "Demon King"
    },
    {
    "side": "bellum",
    "translation": "Bellum"
    },
    {
    "side": "coalition",
    "translation": "Villain Coalition"
    },
    {
    "side": "dark",
    "translation": "Dark Link"
    }
    ],
    "roles": [
    {
    "role": "epona",
    "translation": "Epona",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Link's horse. You can come aid Link and The People of Hyrule with your ability to hax inspect, distract and protect. Use this to connect the power roles and find out potential villains!",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealRole": 0.25
    },
    "protect": {
    "revealRole": 0.25
    },
    "distract": {
    "revealRole": 0.25
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "villager",
    "translation": "Citizen",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a normal citizen of Hyrule. Vote to remove people in the day!",
    "actions": {}
    },
    {
    "role": "inspector",
    "translation": "Zelda",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the Princess of Hyrule and can use /Inspect [name] to find someone's identity with the help of the Triforce of Wisdom! You can also choose to transform into your alter ego Sheik with /sheik [yourname], who can kill during the night! You can switch back and forth between the two.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 15
    },
    "sheik": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4,
    "newRole": "sheik",
    "canConvert": [
    "inspector"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Zelda transforms into her alter ego Sheik!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bodyguard",
    "translation": "Impa",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the last remaining Sheikah and Zelda's personal Bodyguard! Use /Protect [name] to protect someone!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "werewolf",
    "translation": "Skull Kid",
    "side": "werewolf",
    "help": "You are the Skull Kid, wearing Majora's Mask. Type /Kill [name] to kill someone! You are sided with the infinite voting Majora's Mask and Zelda will think you are a normal citizen, you ignore distracters and even Navi can't find you!",
    "actions": {
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 8
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore",
    "msg": "Someone tried to distract you during the night, but couldn't do anything to you."
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "villager"
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "hooker",
    "translation": "Tingle",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a weird guy dressed in green. Your appearance alone is enough to distract most people by using /Distract [name]. You can also use your small size to stalk someone during the night with /stalk [name].",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 3
    },
    "stalk": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 15
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mayor",
    "translation": "King of Hyrule",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the King of Hyrule. Your word is law! Well, not always, but at least your vote counts for 4.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 4
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "spy",
    "translation": "Navi",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are an annoying little fairy and know more than you should. Say HEY, LISTEN and someone will probably kill you.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.4,
    "revealRole": 0.15
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "godfather",
    "translation": "Malladus",
    "side": "godfather",
    "help": "You are the Demon King! Terrorize Hyrule by converting them into minions with /convert [name]. You destroy any distracters if they dare to stand in your way. Cole will keep you alive to the best of his abilities with his protect.",
    "actions": {
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "night": {
    "convert": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 16,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "silent": false,
    "canConvert": "*",
    "newRole": "evil"
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "The Demon King just kills anyone who is in his way. Including you!",
    "msg": "Someone was in your way, so you couldn't kill your targets. But you killed the fool instead!"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "din",
    "translation": "Din",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the Goddess of Power. You can kill 1 person in the night with /Kill [name], but you are sided with the People of Hyrule so don't kill them!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 14
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "impa2",
    "translation": "Impa",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the last remaining Sheikah and Zelda's personal Bodyguard!. Use /Protect [name] to protect up to 2 persons!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "limit": 2,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "farore",
    "translation": "Farore",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the Goddess of Courage. You can prevent others from getting voted off with your -9998 vote.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": -9998
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafia1",
    "translation": "Vaati's minion",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You are one of Vaati's minions. Type /Kill [name] to kill someone! Let Vaati pick a target and then pick somebody else to get 2 kills for your team. If Vaati dies, you now get upgraded to 2 shared kills!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 10,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafia21",
    "translation": "Koume",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "You are the Gerudo Sorceress of Flame. Type /Kill [name] to kill someone! You can also use your fire magic to burn someone in the day with /kill [name], but that has a 45% to reveal you, and you also can hax inspect!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "Koume uses her fire magic to burn ~Target~ to the bones!",
    "revealChance": 0.45,
    "revealmsg": "~Self~ lets out an evil laugh."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "hax": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealRole": 0.25
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafia22",
    "translation": "Kotake",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "You are the Gerudo Sorceress of Ice. Type /Kill [name] to kill someone! You can also use your ice magic to freeze someone for the night by typing /Distract [name]. You also hax distracts!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team"
    },
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 2
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "hax": {
    "distract": {
    "revealRole": 0.25
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafiaboss1",
    "translation": "Vaati",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You are the evil wind mage Vaati! With /kill [name] you can kill someone. Command your minions to kill a different target than you to get 2 kills per night. You can't be distracted! Upon your death, your minions will receive 2 kills instead of one!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 9,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore",
    "msg": "Someone tried to distract you during the night, but your wind magic negated the effect."
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "onDeath": {
    "convertRoles": {
    "mafia1": "mafia1strong"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafiaboss2",
    "translation": "Ganondorf",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "You are the Great King of Evil! You can use /Kill [name] to kill someone and can't be killed yourself by anyone except Link! You also can't be distracted!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "kill": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore",
    "msg": "Tingle tried to sell you a map, but you simply popped his balloon and went on with your business."
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ],
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "samurai",
    "translation": "Link",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the Hero of Time and the only village sided role who can kill Ganondorf! Type /Kill [name] during the day phase to kill someone! You will be revealed when you kill, so make wise choices and claim in the first night to get protection! Do not worry about Koume, Dark Link and Bellum, you evade daykills and Bellum cannot kill you.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ raises the Master Sword into the air, followed by a few quick slashes to kill ~Target~!"
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade",
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "ignore": [
    "bellum"
    ]
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "miller",
    "translation": "Midna",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Midna, a strange, dark creature and sided with the People of Hyrule, but Zelda will not be sure whether you are good or evil when she inspects you!",
    "actions": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "godfather"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bellum",
    "translation": "Bellum",
    "side": "bellum",
    "help": "With you running rampant before Malladus, you have the ability to kill past the bodyguards. You cannot kill Link however, but you do have a +2 vote to beat Link in a 1 vs 1 situation. You are on your own so have fun! You also avoid hax and kill distracters.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "An evil won't let anyone get in his way, INCLUDING YOU!",
    "msg": "Someone got in your way, you don't care as you slaughtered them!"
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dark",
    "translation": "Dark Link",
    "side": "dark",
    "help": "You are an evil, shadowy doppelgänger of Link. Because of this, you inspect as Link. You can also kill twice, during the die, once with /slash [name], which will not reveal you, and once with /kill [name], which will reveal you, but it will be an exact clone of Link's daykill, allowing you to fakeclaim Link. You can fakeclaim Link this way, as you also evade daykills.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "slash": {
    "command": "kill",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Remember, /slash [name] will not reveal you, but /kill [name] will reveal you as Link.",
    "killmsg": "Dark Link slashes ~Target~ multiple times with his sword, killing them!"
    },
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ raises the Master Sword into the air, followed by a few quick slashes to kill ~Target~!"
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "samurai"
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "majora",
    "translation": "Majora",
    "side": "werewolf",
    "help": "You are the evil Majora Mask, in league with Skull Kid. Your vote counts as a total of 9999, allowing you to vote off anyone. Be aware though that Farore has -9998 vote, so your vote is not unstoppable.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 9999,
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafia1strong",
    "translation": "Vaati's Minion",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Angered with the death of your leader, you now have 2 kills to share with each other! Use them wisely.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 10,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "limit": 2
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "oldman",
    "translation": "Old Man",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are sided with the Village, although the advice you give Link is so strange, you are thought to be a enemy! However, do not allow Link to attack you, as the flames surrounding you will shoot fireballs at Link, killing him!",
    "actions": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "mafia1"
    },
    "daykill": "revenge",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ attempts to kill the Old Man, but ~Self~'s fireballs attack ~Target~ and kill them!"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "linebeck",
    "translation": "Linebeck",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Linebeck, a self-centered, greedy, arrogant, cowardly, treasure-pursuing sailor, but you're still good! You can use your ship to safeguard 2 people during the night with /safeguard [name].",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "limit": 2
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "cole",
    "translation": "Chancellor Cole",
    "side": "godfather",
    "winningSides": [
    "village"
    ],
    "help": "You are Chancellor Cole, the chancellor of New Hyrule, and you have been possessed by Malladus. You serve the Demon King by using /protect [name] on him during the night. Your protect cannot be haxed. You also win with the Good People, so keep this in mind.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "avoidHax": [
    "protect"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "agahnim",
    "translation": "Agahnim",
    "side": "coalition",
    "help": "You are the Dark Wizard Agahmin, part of the Villain Coalition. Type /kill [name] to kill someone! Also, using your magic, use /inspect [name] to find someone's role!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team"
    },
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 15,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "onox",
    "translation": "Onox",
    "side": "coalition",
    "help": "You are the General of Darkness Onox, part of the Villain Coalition. Type /kill [name] to kill someone! Also, using your strength, use /protect [name] to protect someone! ",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team"
    },
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "veran",
    "translation": "Veran",
    "side": "coalition",
    "help": "You are the Sorceress of Shadows Veran, part of the Villain Coalition. Type /kill [name] to kill someone! Also, using your sorcery, use /expose [name] to expose someone's role during the day!",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "expose": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "msg": "You can type /expose [name] to reveal someone's role!",
    "exposemsg": "Veran briefly possesses ~Target~, reveals them as ~Role~ and exits their body!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "naryu",
    "translation": "Naryu",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the Goddess of Wisdom Naryu. Because of this, it is unwise someone kills you during the night, as you will kill them in return, even if they are protected!",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": "killattackerevenifprotected"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "sheik",
    "translation": "sheik",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are now your alter ego Sheik. You can now kill during the night with /kill [name] (don't kill the village). You can also transform yourself back into Zelda with /zelda [yourname].",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 7
    },
    "zelda": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4,
    "newRole": "inspector",
    "canConvert": [
    "sheik"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Sheik transformed back into Zelda!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "evil",
    "translation": "The Possessed",
    "side": "godfather",
    "help": "Malladus has now possessed you! You only have 3 days to live before you succumb to the evil. Anyway, you may kill during the night with /kill [name].",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 13,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "initialCondition": {
    "poison": {
    "count": 4,
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Malladus's evil overwhelmed you!"
    }
    }
    }
    }
    ],
    "roles1": [
    "bodyguard",
    "samurai",
    "mafiaboss1",
    "inspector",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "villager",
    "mafia1",
    "hooker",
    "villager",
    "mafia22",
    "mafia1",
    "epona",
    "werewolf",
    "villager",
    "mayor",
    "spy",
    "villager",
    "dark"
    ],
    "roles2": [
    "impa2",
    "samurai",
    "mafiaboss1",
    "inspector",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "mafia1",
    "mafia1",
    "hooker",
    "din",
    "mafia22",
    "onox",
    "agahnim",
    "werewolf",
    "spy",
    "dark",
    "villager",
    "miller",
    "godfather",
    "oldman",
    "naryu",
    "din",
    "villager",
    "mafia21",
    "epona",
    "veran",
    "villager",
    "villager",
    "linebeck",
    "villager",
    "cole",
    "mayor",
    "villager",
    "farore",
    "villager",
    "majora",
    "mafia1",
    "naryu",
    "villager",
    "bellum",
    "villager",
    "villager",
    "villager",
    "mafia1",
    "villager"
    ],
    "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    "mayor",
    "din",
    "samurai",
    "farore",
    "sheik"
    ]
    }[/HIDE]

    Similar to the original Zelda theme, it has been upgraded to feature modern items, as well as keeping to the spirit of the theme.

    VILLAGE:
    Link: Is the same, but now evades the returning Bellum's kill and all daykills. Can still claim safely.
    Zelda: Still inspects, but can transform herself into a fairly good priority Vigilante. Can switch between both.
    Linebeck: A new 2 time safeguarder.
    Tingle can now distract and stalk.
    Midna is the same.
    Farore now has -9998 to counter the new role Majora.
    Din is the same.
    Naryu is now a nightkilling bomb.
    Impa is now the BG in bigger games as well.
    Navi is the same, just less hax rate
    KoH now has 4 votes.
    Citis are the same.
    Annalist has been removed.
    Old Man inspects as Vaati's Minions and revenge kills daykillers.
    Epona can hax distract, inspect and protect.

    Skull Kid and Majora:
    Skull Kid remains the same but now has a teammate in the form of Majora.
    Majora is a Kuja like role.

    Gerudo:
    Ganon is the same.
    Kotake now haxes distract.
    Koume only has a 45% chance to reveal while daykilling, and can hax inspect.

    Dark Link inspects as Link, evades daykills, uses an unrevealing daykill during the day and a revealing kill, which is the exact same message as Links.

    Vaati and Minions:
    Vaati is the same, but upon his death, Minions get 2 kills instead of one.
    Minions are otherwise unchanged apart from that.

    Bellum: Can no longer kill Link and has +2 vote.

    The Demon King:
    Malladus: Can convert once a night a killer role that dies in 3 nights. Kills distracters.
    Cole: Protects Malladus, and can win with Village. Protect is unhaxable.

    Villain Coalition:
    Agahnim: An evil inspector killer.
    Onox: An evil protector killer.
    Veran: An evil exposing killer.[/HIDE]

    I will most appreciate all criticism, I really want to make a strong update to Zelda. Anything too underpowered/overpowered here? Or is it all fine? I really need some input and feedback on this.
     
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  2. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    Tbh, Dark Link is OP, he can fake claim Link, use his revealed daykill, making people think he is Link, and get all Pr's just like that. Koume won't be doing anything to that due to him "evading" her kills.
     
  3. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Should the real Link die though, he will be found easily. It's whether you want to play mindgames with the Village or not.
     
  4. CarlesNB

    CarlesNB SideCarlesNB

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    Pretty idea this theme. Seems like is really ballanced.
    LOL if Dark Link reveals n1, all the goodies will fail, I really like the idea.
    I think this theme can be a new classic.
     
  5. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    Dark Link gets an unrevealing DK and a revealing DK? Idk if that's TOO op.

    how about a unhax'd night kill and the revealing DK, that way he's not too stronf, at least he has a chance to fail during the night (protects etc;)
     
  6. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Thanks man, appreciated.

    Dark Link is meant to be a different take on the GF. I don't want to make all the chars having nightkills, so I decided to let DL have a normal daykill, and the revealing one is more for mindgames really.
     
  7. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    Well, the addition to this may seem chaotic, but the changes, especially in Dark Link, seem interesting. I think DL is a viable role, but only in larger games.
     
  8. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Also, due to Zelda's impending approval, I am thinking of perhaps making this Zelda +, similar to SSBB and SSBB+.
     
  9. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    I do not know how well this will transpire given the impending split of SSBB / SSBB+ - there will only be one, iirc.
    Have you considered making a different style of Zelda ie: it's own skin? Much adieu like how there was FF and then FF Tactics which had its own cast of characters and it's own flavor.
     
  10. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Nah, I've always wanted to keep Zelda the same style. But half want an update to Zelda, other half like it the way it is. I figure making 2 themes of both would make it slightly easier for both parties.
     
  11. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Epona's hax rate for distract is too high! Kotake shouldn't distract untill Epona is dead, or will easily get revealed.
     
  12. BebbZ

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    Given the fact that having a Theme and a Theme+ was a terrible idea with SSBB and will likely be a terrible idea with this, I am going to stamp my seal of Rejection on this.

    Instead, why not try giving it a new skin, or at least a name that isn't Zelda+ because we do not need this ending like the last "+" fiasco.

    If this was centered on a specific Zelda game or given a wholly different skin, I may reconsider.
     
  13. NAVIDAD PIRATE

    NAVIDAD PIRATE THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

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    To be completely honest I don't like having two of basically the same theme on the channel. Before you make reference to SSBB/SSBB+, note that it was an extremely rare exception and probably won't be done again, considering that the person who authored the former is no longer here. If you want to make changes to Zelda, you can talk to whoever adopted it or something and work with them, but I feel like Zelda is already a strong enough theme and doesn't really need updating.

    Dark Phoenix's suggestion of a FF/FF Tactics type split is good, but I still feel like it would be too similar and I personally am looking for uniqueness when it comes to theming. I'm gonna tentatively Reject this.
     
  14. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    There used to be a theme called OoT, with the characters but a different name and playstyle. I think something like that would be decent enough. You may have to change some things, however.

    However, I must reject .
     
  15. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Well Im extremely troubled on what to do here. I thought me adopting the theme with these changes would anger some people, so I decided to consider seperating them.
    2 seperate themes really did seem the way to go though, one classic theme and one modern one.
     
  16. Zzyzx Road

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    Two Zelda themes seems overriding to me. Plus, Dark Link as Oak said below (edited post lol) seems gamebreaking. It also didn't add much in comparison to other themes. Reject.
     
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  17. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    You might say that said Dark Link role is good for "mind games", but it completely outclasses Link and can make the good guys lose on its own. That's far too overpowered.

    Combine that with BebbZ's post, and it's an easy rejection for me.
     
  18. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    I quite like the fake samurai. Perhaps it deserves its own theme - not this one.
     
  19. t3 the third

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    I've already tried making a theme where samurais have to fight over who's the good one. I was lazy though. I like this idea but I prefer Zelda keeping its original feel. Decline.
     
  20. Abdelrahman

    Abdelrahman I'm fourteen now

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    Oh btw, I noticed some errors in your code. First of all, when the PL distracts the Malladus, "Someone was in your way, so you couldn't kill your targets", but in the commands it only says it can /convert. Windmage seems OP imo. I mean, it already gets unshared kills with Vaati alive, and with Vaati dying, it gets two shared kills. That just seems OP for me at least. I also suggest either removing Koume's nightkill or making its daykill a definite reveal. I already thought the Gerudo were too OP in the original Zelda, considering there are three nightkillers, with one of them as a daykiller, the other a distracter and the third as a nightkill evader. Reducing Koume's reveal percentage is just more OP for me, especially with Dark Link alive, the village are basically fucked. Also definitely remove the inspect hax, what's that necessary for? :x Same thing with Kotake, remove its distract hax. Oh btw, Dark Link fakeclaiming seems useless, basically since Link evades daykills, he will be able to kill the Dark Link if he finds out the fake. The Oldman idea was actually pretty smart and interesting, so kudos on that. I already told you why I don't like Linebeck's role, so yeah. Also the idea of a BG sided with Malladus but wins with the village seems pretty cool. OK I think the Coalition are too PO. Maybe remove Veran since a bad exposer who kills and sided with two killers with inspect and protect seems like a goofy and ridiculous idea in my mind. Also in the roles2 column, Linebeck is spaced back behind the others. Overall, my opinion on this theme is that I think it's too OP on every side. Maybe make it more simple, sometimes it is better.
     
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  21. t3 the third

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    Abdel, the kills are shared between the Gerudos .-.
    Then again it was early morning when you posted (I think) so :/
     
  22. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    So I was also thinking about naming the original "Classic Zelda" and this one "Zelda". Both parties are happy and it's not a repeat of the + fiasco.
    Also, any ideas on how to make Dark Link slightly less UP? Should I follow DP's advice?
     
  23. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    I really don't think changing the title of the original one to "Classic Zelda" and this one "Zelda" sounds like a good idea.

    Instead of trying to change the current Zelda, how about basing a new theme on a specific Zelda game, and name the theme after the game names, like OoT.
     
  24. Zzyzx Road

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    I'm pretty sure the + thing didn't go wrong because of the + itself. Zelda is already a series mashup theme, so I don't feel like approving this anyway... maybe if you give it a game-specific flavor as few people mentioned before me.
     
  25. chippymunk

    chippymunk Bran-ed

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    I think that Majora's mask should turn people into Deku Scrubs. Don't need to follow the advice but I think it would be cool.
     
  26. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    The only problem is if I give it a game-specfic flavour I:
    A. May have to use new roles in places
    B. Risk having it called a Reskin+
     
  27. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    Tbh having more than one theme based on the same thing is silly. I never agreed with the two SSBB thing, and having two zelda themes seems dumb to me. Reject

    Instead of trying to put a new spin on an old theme, make a new theme.
     
  28. BebbZ

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    This theme has received significant rejection to the point it cannot be accepted even if all remaining QC members approve it.

    Therefore this thread is now closed and your theme is Rejected. Please feel free to re-submit it once you make significant changes.
     
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