Fruit

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  1. Lamperi

    Lamperi I see what you did there

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    Fruit is a classic theme which was relatively popular since the introduction of themed mafia games.

    The popularity of the theme is explained with a simple fact that is is fairly simple, and includes things people already know - only thing to learn is what powers each role has.

    The village side consists of fruit (and a tuber). A basic mayor (melon), vigi (mango), bodyguard (potato), PL (tomato), samurai (pineapple) and inspector (kiwi) roles are included for special roles. -Actionless villagers consists of bananas who have very rare spy powers as a novelty, apples who know eachother for sure, and a weird plum who gets mixed with rotten for inspector.

    Baddies are mainly rotten fruit, all of them prefixed with rotten: rotten banana for -1 vote, tomato for kill and distract, rotten cucumber for another kill, rotten potato for yet another kill and protection. Cucumbers will raise in numbers when there are lots of players. Rotten are powerful and have a good chance to win - but the lack of distract revengers and the apple self-conscius make up for this.

    Additionally, two "werewolfs" are in the theme, fish at 11+ players, chicken at 23+ (max is 30). Fish has self-protect at night and anonymous day kill, chicken has inspect and kill. Additionally fish has negative voters with them in larger games.

    The theme offers a different-enough theme from the default with its quirks.

    The JSON file is warningless and errorless, and well formatted in general.
    It's available from http://lamperi.name/fruit.json
    Code (text):
    1. {
    2.     "name": "Fruit",
    3.     "author": "Lamperi",
    4.     "summary": "What a game of wonders. A watermelon, whose vote counts as five? A good guy mango that can kill! A kiwi that can inspect! Tomatoes distracting you! Can’t forget about those bananas and apples! Angry rotten fruit out for revenge! To top it all off, a daykilling fish that can’t be stopped! Also what is a potato doing it the game, it’s a tuber! Oh, well, it'll still protect you.",
    5.     "border": "***¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>",
    6.     "sides": [
    7.         {
    8.             "side": "village",
    9.             "translation": "Fruit"
    10.         },
    11.         {
    12.             "side": "fish",
    13.             "translation": "Fish"
    14.         },
    15.         {
    16.             "side": "chicken",
    17.             "translation": "Chicken"
    18.         },
    19.         {
    20.             "side": "rotten",
    21.             "translation": "Rotten Fruit"
    22.         }
    23.     ],
    24.     "roles": [
    25.         {
    26.             "role": "banana",
    27.             "translation": "Banana",
    28.             "side": "village",
    29.             "help": "You don't have any special commands during the night! Vote to remove people in the day!",
    30.             "actions": {
    31.                 "hax": {
    32.                     "protect": {
    33.                         "revealTeam": 0.02,
    34.                         "revealPlayer": 0.01
    35.                     },
    36.                     "distract": {
    37.                         "revealTeam": 0.02,
    38.                         "revealPlayer": 0.01
    39.                     },
    40.                     "kill": {
    41.                         "revealTeam": 0.02,
    42.                         "revealPlayer": 0.01
    43.                     }
    44.                 }
    45.             }
    46.         },
    47.         {
    48.             "role": "apple",
    49.             "translation": "Apple",
    50.             "side": "village",
    51.             "help": "You don't have any special commands during the night! Vote to remove people in the day! You know all the other Apples.",
    52.             "actions": {
    53.                 "startup": "role-reveal"
    54.             }
    55.         },
    56.         {
    57.             "role": "plum",
    58.             "translation": "Plum",
    59.             "side": "village",
    60.             "help": "You don't have any special commands at night, but your soft and dark, so inspectors see you as a rotten tomato. Sucks for you!",
    61.             "actions": {
    62.                 "inspect": {
    63.                     "revealAs": "rtomato"
    64.                 }
    65.             }
    66.         },
    67.         {
    68.             "role": "rtomato",
    69.             "translation": "Rotten Tomato",
    70.             "side": "rotten",
    71.             "help": "Red and smelly, that is you. Type /Kill to kill someone during the night. Type /Distract to distract them with your smell.",
    72.             "actions": {
    73.                 "night": {
    74.                     "kill": {
    75.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    76.                         "common": "Role",
    77.                         "priority": 5,
    78.                         "broadcast": "role"
    79.                     },
    80.                     "distract": {
    81.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    82.                         "common": "Role",
    83.                         "priority": 1,
    84.                         "broadcast": "role"
    85.                     }
    86.                 },
    87.                 "startup": "team-reveal"
    88.             }
    89.         },
    90.         {
    91.             "role": "rcucumber",
    92.             "translation": "Rotten Cucumber",
    93.             "side": "rotten",
    94.             "help": "Green and smelly, that is you. Type /Kill to kill someone during the night.",
    95.             "actions": {
    96.                 "night": {
    97.                     "kill": {
    98.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    99.                         "common": "Role",
    100.                         "priority": 5,
    101.                         "broadcast": "role"
    102.                     }
    103.                 },
    104.                 "startup": "team-reveal"
    105.             }
    106.         },
    107.         {
    108.             "role": "ch",
    109.             "translation": "Chicken",
    110.             "side": "chicken",
    111.             "help": "You are a chicken! Bawk bawk! You can kill one person during the night, and inspect one person as well! But remember, don't get caught, or you'll be cooked.",
    112.             "actions": {
    113.                 "night": {
    114.                     "kill": {
    115.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    116.                         "common": "Role",
    117.                         "priority": 18,
    118.                         "broadcast": "role"
    119.                     },
    120.                     "inspect": {
    121.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    122.                         "common": "Role",
    123.                         "priority": 2,
    124.                         "broadcast": "role"
    125.                     }
    126.                 }
    127.             }
    128.         },
    129.         {
    130.             "role": "rpotato",
    131.             "translation": "Rotten Potato",
    132.             "side": "rotten",
    133.             "help": "You smell bad and can keep other people away from your target. Type /Kill to kill someone. Type /Protect to protect someone during the night.",
    134.             "actions": {
    135.                 "night": {
    136.                     "kill": {
    137.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    138.                         "common": "Role",
    139.                         "priority": 5,
    140.                         "broadcast": "role"
    141.                     },
    142.                     "protect": {
    143.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    144.                         "common": "Role",
    145.                         "priority": 2,
    146.                         "broadcast": "role"
    147.                     }
    148.                 },
    149.                 "startup": "team-reveal"
    150.             }
    151.         },
    152.         {
    153.             "role": "tomato",
    154.             "translation": "Tomato",
    155.             "side": "village",
    156.             "help": "You are round and red, and apparently, a fruit. Type /Distract to distract someone during the night!",
    157.             "actions": {
    158.                 "night": {
    159.                     "distract": {
    160.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    161.                         "common": "Self",
    162.                         "priority": 1
    163.                     }
    164.                 }
    165.             }
    166.         },
    167.         {
    168.             "role": "potato",
    169.             "translation": "Potato",
    170.             "side": "village",
    171.             "help": "Well you live under the ground but are still allied with the fruit (WEIRD, huh?). Type /Protect to protect people from killing during the night. You can protect two people per night.",
    172.             "actions": {
    173.                 "night": {
    174.                     "protect": {
    175.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    176.                         "common": "Self",
    177.                         "priority": 3,
    178.                         "limit": 2
    179.                     }
    180.                 }
    181.             }
    182.         },
    183.         {
    184.             "role": "mango",
    185.             "translation": "Mango",
    186.             "side": "village",
    187.             "help": "Being a big round fruit, you are able to kill. Type /Kill to kill at night.",
    188.             "actions": {
    189.                 "night": {
    190.                     "kill": {
    191.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    192.                         "common": "Self",
    193.                         "priority": 15
    194.                     }
    195.                 }
    196.             }
    197.         },
    198.         {
    199.             "role": "melon",
    200.             "translation": "Watermelon",
    201.             "side": "village",
    202.             "help": "You don't have any special commands at night, but your vote counts as 5 because I said so.",
    203.             "actions": {
    204.                 "inspect": {
    205.                     "revealAs": "banana"
    206.                 },
    207.                 "vote": 5
    208.             }
    209.         },
    210.         {
    211.             "role": "minnow",
    212.             "translation": "Minnow",
    213.             "side": "fish",
    214.             "help": "As a minor but tasty fish, your vote counts as -2! You are sided with the Fishies!",
    215.             "actions": {
    216.                 "startup": "team-reveal",
    217.                 "vote": -2
    218.             }
    219.         },
    220.         {
    221.             "role": "rb",
    222.             "translation": "Rotten Banana",
    223.             "side": "rotten",
    224.             "help": "You are sided with the rottens! But, since you are so smelly, your vote counts as -1.",
    225.             "actions": {
    226.                 "startup": "team-reveal",
    227.                 "vote": -1
    228.             }
    229.         },
    230.         {
    231.             "role": "fish",
    232.             "translation": "Fish",
    233.             "side": "fish",
    234.             "help": "You are alone. Sad, small, little fish. You aren't even supposed to win, but if you do, gz. Type /Protect yourname to avoid getting killed at night. Type /Kill during standby to kill.",
    235.             "actions": {
    236.                 "startup": "team-reveal",
    237.                 "night": {
    238.                     "protect": {
    239.                         "target": "Self",
    240.                         "common": "Self",
    241.                         "priority": 2
    242.                     }
    243.                 },
    244.                 "standby": {
    245.                     "kill": {
    246.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    247.                         "msg": "It's time to troll. Type /Kill to get rid of your nemesis.",
    248.                         "killmsg": "The Fish used Splash! ~Target~ fainted!"
    249.                     }
    250.                 }
    251.             }
    252.         },
    253. {
    254.             "role": "pa",
    255.             "translation": "Pineapple",
    256.             "side": "village",
    257.             "help": "You are sharp, and can hurt people's tongues. However, you can also kill a person during the day. You will be revealed, and there is a fish. Be careful, and STAB ON!",
    258.             "actions": {
    259.                 "standby": {
    260.                     "kill": {
    261.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    262.                         "msg": "Type /kill to get rid of the enemy. YOU WILL BE REVEALED.",
    263.                         "killmsg": "~Self~ dive-bombs ~Target~, who dies because of the sharpness of the ultimate pineapple."
    264.                     }
    265.                 }
    266.             }
    267.         },
    268.         {
    269.             "role": "kiwi",
    270.             "translation": "Kiwi Fruit",
    271.             "side": "village",
    272.             "help": "You are hairy fruit. Type /Inspect [name] to inspect someone during the night.",
    273.             "actions": {
    274.                 "night": {
    275.                     "inspect": {
    276.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    277.                         "common": "Self",
    278.                         "priority": 20
    279.                     }
    280.                 }
    281.             }
    282.         }
    283.     ],
    284.     "roles1": [
    285.         "banana",
    286.         "banana",
    287.         "potato",
    288.         "tomato",
    289.         "rtomato",
    290.         "rpotato",
    291.         "melon",
    292.         "kiwi",
    293.         "mango",
    294.         "banana",
    295.         "fish",
    296.         "rcucumber",
    297.         "mango",
    298.         "apple",
    299.         "apple",
    300.         "apple",
    301.         "minnow",
    302.         "kiwi",
    303.         "rb",
    304.         "melon",
    305.         "rcucumber",
    306.         "minnow",
    307.         "banana",
    308.         "ch",
    309.         "apple",
    310.         "rcucumber",
    311.         "plum",
    312.         "banana",
    313.         "pa",
    314.         "rb",
    315.         "banana"
    316.     ],
    317.     "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    318.         "melon",
    319.         "mango",
    320.         "pa"
    321.     ]
    322. }
    Some of the stuff are community contributions:
    • theme summary
    • better descriptions for roles
    • bigger roles array for larger games
    • roles: pineapple, minnow, chicken (though there was a side for it as an easter egg), plum
     
  2. Narshen

    Narshen Dragon Lord

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    A classic, fun and well-balanced theme. Always have a blast playing this, all the sides are enjoyable.

    APPROVED
     
  3. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    The roles are stupid, and the descriptions more so, but some how I can't help but feel a warm, fuzzy feeling inside whenever this theme is started.

    Approved
     
  4. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    this theme is so cute

    balanced and funny

    APPROVED
     
  5. t3 the third

    t3 the third Member

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    The first non-default theme, I remember when this was uploaded :x
    Anyway, I really like the simplicity of the theme, even being a villager is enjoyable. Approve.
     
  6. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    Is a maximum 30 slots really enough?
     
  7. BebbZ

    BebbZ Member

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    I think so, I mean for a while (not sure about it now) but most of the classic themes had 30. FF and Zelda possibly still do. Myth too.

    Some themes just shouldn't have to expand past a certain point in my opinion. And that's why this theme gets approved from me.
     
  8. Zzyzx Road

    Zzyzx Road Member

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    imo some vanilla is never bad, I'd say up to 35..

    Either way, approved!
     
  9. Elite's Aaron

    Elite's Aaron Sinnoh's Elite

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    I never liked fruit because it is so bizarre, but I approve because so many others seem to enjoy it.
     
  10. NAVIDAD PIRATE

    NAVIDAD PIRATE THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

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    I feel like it really doesn't need 35. It's a theme that probably won't be changed due to it's classic nature and any more roles may throw off balance. And while the channel is growing people at peak hours like to play other themes anyway.

    Approved etc
     
  11. Yttrium

    Yttrium Well-Known Member Developer Developer

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    I'd say approve since it is fairly well balanced, although something I'd recommend change is the Fish's help description.
    I think it is rather demeaning to be told you aren't even supposed to win when you get a role.
     
  12. fitzy

    fitzy Heart of the cards Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Also approved. Fruit is a really damn good theme and fun to play.
     
  13. Katia

    Katia Haxy Haxy!

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    I like fruit. *noms on tasty fruit* This is a good theme and should be played once more. Approve.
     
  14. CarlesNB

    CarlesNB SideCarlesNB

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    Chicken can win? I think all is nice except this wtf
     
  15. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Chicken is VERY underpowerd! Inspection and bad prio nightkill, who can be pled? I have never seen chicken win a game. How can it win a game unless being very lucky?

    I think you should fix that before getting approved.
     
  16. Oh So Shoddy

    Oh So Shoddy Devil's Advocate

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    It's called having a chip on your shoulder.

    Like Caterpie, this theme is amazingly entertaining in its simplicity. It's a nice theme to have in between the more intricate ones. I certainly approve [12].
     
  17. Lamperi

    Lamperi I see what you did there

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    Honestly, any lone roles get lucky if they win, chicken is not much worse than godfather is ww in default theme. It's still entertaining to play and a thread to all other teams. It doens't have to win every fourth game.
     
  18. Mr.Anonymous

    Mr.Anonymous Member

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    Can I suggest something ? Maybe adding in "team-reveal-with-roles"
     
  19. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    Yes, the Rotten Fruits should have this, so that Potato knows who he should protect instead of having to PM the entire team to find the killers.
     
  20. Altaria

    Altaria (':

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    Maybe Chicken can get a self-protect/nightkill evade/higher priority kill. Former few would let it survive nights and get voted out only in the day; the self-protect could be used to protect others just to frame. To make it less OP with the self-protect, let it get very easily haxed or something.

    Otherwise, great job with the theme, Lamperi! The sides are very balanced, roles are very diverse etc, except for the little problem with the Chicken. ~
     
  21. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    That chicken problem really makes me thinks that is underpoewred. I do think that every side should have similar chances at winning (maybe the village should win a bit more or lonely roles shouldn't win so easily), but it's nearly impossible for chicken to win!

    Decline [1]... I know it won't change the theme's situation, but I really think it should have to be considered.
     
  22. Oh So Shoddy

    Oh So Shoddy Devil's Advocate

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    That decline is detrimental to the implementation of this theme. It is with great anxiety for what will will follow that I announce the current tally. 12 - 1, in favor of approving...

    All jokes aside though. It wouldn't hurt to take a look at Chicken's situation.
     
  23. GreenWater10

    GreenWater10 GreenWater10

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    side the Chicken with the fish and call it the Meat Team...
     
  24. Yttrium

    Yttrium Well-Known Member Developer Developer

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    I still think team-reveal-with-roles should be added to the Rotten Fruit. Their team has a lot of members in large games and it would be useful to know what everyone is without having to PM each person.
     
  25. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    (18:55:20) ***¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>
    (18:55:20) ±Game: The Fish used Splash! the big king fainted!
    (18:55:20) ±Kill: the big king (Minnow) died!
    (18:55:20) ***¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>

    Please, make fish unable to teamkill. That was not the first time it happened.
     
  26. Roild

    Roild Member

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    I will fix up small games and possibly add a few roles, as well as tweak skills an abilities in the code to function in a better manner.
     
  27. Roild

    Roild Member

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    Changes were made. I am not too sure how I feel about the Minnow becoming Fish after death. Unless someone talks me out of it, I will change it to a slow NK (not shared with chicken) and the -4 votes still. I like the orange roles as replacements to other roles. And the changing of some spawn moves the game a little better.
     
  28. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    (13:10:07) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (13:10:08) ±Side: The Fruit (Village) consists of: Apple, Banana, Coconut, Dragonfruit, Grape, Kiwi Fruit, Lean Rabbit, Mango, Orange, Pineapple, Plum, Potato, Rotten Passionfruit, Tomato, Watermelon.
    (13:10:08) ±Side: The Meats consists of: Chicken, Fish, Minnow, Sardine.
    (13:10:08) ±Side: The Rotten Fruit consists of: Rotten Banana, Rotten Cucumber, Rotten Orange, Rotten Potato, Rotten Tomato.
    (13:10:08) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    Rotten PassionFruit and Lean Rabbit are enlisted on the village side instead to their right one.
     
  29. Roild

    Roild Member

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    lul. k. my b.
     
  30. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Yes, that is an issue because any villager role could see who Rotten Passionfruit was killing, making them clean and the village extremely OP.
     
  31. Roild

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    Fiery, that was a side mistake. I believe you're imagining something else happening. Simple thing though, not really more posts needed after I noticed the problem.
     
  32. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Have you thought of adding Strawberry, and Dates? Dates can be a conspirator because it's a protein, and it can be considered rotten and regular. Strawberry can be a neighbor, being able to reveal his role to someone. Dragonfruit will die to this, but it still acts like a form of connection.
     
  33. Roild

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  34. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    As it stands right now, the Rotten Passionfruit doesn't know its teammates or have access to /tt. Can you change that please?
     
  35. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    Lean Rabbit needs teamreveal and teamtalk.
     
  36. Roild

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    Oops. :0 Okay thanks.
     
  37. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Found a bug, kill it with fire.
     

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    -1 charges? I think that's server stuff. Doesn't seem to hurt anything. Happens because new role has all those things too and they happen twice (after converting).