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    {
    "name": "Pixar",
    "author": "Wiljuice",
    "summary": "Revisit movies franchises from your childhood, to today, in this Pixar mash-up mafia theme! Are you a part of the Toy Story Village, or does your heart lie within Monster’s Inc. Mafia? Are you searching for your robotic life companion, or just trying to kill everything in sight with your elite archery skills? Either way, this theme is sure to bring back memories. Franchises Included in the Version are: Toy Story, Monster’s Inc., Finding Nemo, Wall-E, and Brave. More to come as the theme receives criticism and what not. The next update will include general fixes, as well as The Incredibles Mafia side, and maybe even some characters from the Short Films? Direct all comments, questions, and concerns to Wiljuice.",
    "sides": [
    {
    "side": "mafia",
    "translation": "Wall-E Mafia"
    },
    {
    "side": "fish",
    "translation": "Finding Nemo Mafia"
    },
    {
    "side": "mafia1",
    "translation": "Monster’s Inc. Mafia"
    },
    {
    "side": "village",
    "translation": "Toy Story Village"
    },
    {
    "side": "godfather",
    "translation": "Brave Mafia"
    }
    ],
    "roles": [
    {
    "role": "villager",
    "translation": "Alien",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Stuck inside the game that caused us hours of pain as children, you’re the Squeeze Toy Alien. You just kind of sit at Pizza Planet all day, but you see a lot of information that the Toy Story Village would love to know of! Spread your hax to your teammates to ensure your success!",
    "info": "A villager who may hax kills or poisons. Sided with the Toy Story Village.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.09,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    },
    "poison": {
    "revealTeam": 0.07,
    "revealPlayer": 0.04
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "miller",
    "translation": "Bo Peep",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Stuck inside the game that caused us hours of pain as children, you’re the Squeeze Toy Alien. You just kind of sit at Pizza Planet all day, but you see a lot of information that the Toy Story Village would love to know of! Spread your hax to your teammates to ensure your success!",
    "info": "A miller who is inspected as Eve. They hax kills or poisons. Sided with the Toy Story Village.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.09,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    },
    "poison": {
    "revealTeam": 0.07,
    "revealPlayer": 0.04
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "werewolf"
    },
    "startup": {
    "revealAs": "villager"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "armymen",
    "translation": "Army Man",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Alpha! Bravo! Charlie! D-D-Dinosaur..? YOU'RE A BIG STRONG ARMY MAN, made of the finest plastic we could afford. You only have half a vote, but hey, you get a kill that shared between you and your fellow soldiers! Use your powers to help the village claim victory!",
    "info": "A member of the Toy Story Village who gets a shared nightkill between other Army Men, with a 0.5 vote.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "Any",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 28,
    "broadcast": "Role"
    }
    },
    "startup": "role-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "inspector",
    "translation": "Rex The Dinosaur",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Use your prehistoric powers to see someone’s role! Use /Inspect [name] to find out what his/her identity is!",
    "info": "An inspector, sided with the Toy Story Village.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 37
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bodyguard",
    "translation": "Slinky Dog",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are everyone’s trusted friend! Use your guarding powers to /protect someone at night! Hint, you might want to protect someone like Woody, Buzz Lightyear, or Rex The Dinosaur!",
    "info": "A bodyguard with two votes, sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 7,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    },
    "startup": "role-reveal",
    "vote": 2
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "werewolf",
    "translation": "Eve",
    "side": "mafia",
    "help": "You and Wall-E wish to share your lives together for eternity, which is actually possible for the two of you. You have the power to kill anyone at night, and Wall-E has amazing voting powers. You also killing anyone who distracts your attention away from Wall-E.",
    "info": "A killer who kills any distractors, sided with the Wall-E mafia",
    "actions": {
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": "mayor2"
    },
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 25
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "You tried to distract Eve, and she vaporized you! Maybe there’s mercy for souls like you in Toys R’ Us…",
    "msg": "The ~Distracter~ came to you last night, but we don’t have to worry about that again.!"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "hooker2",
    "translation": "Jessie",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You didn’t come around until the sequel, but that doesn’t mean your not important! You can /distract at night, and plus you know who Woody is!",
    "info": "A pretty lady who gets team reveal on Woody, sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": "samurai"
    },
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "sneak",
    "translation": "Randall",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Usually you and your teammates are on opposing sides, but this time, you're working with them for the better of Monstropolis! You can /sneak one person during the night, and find out just what they were up to!",
    "info": "A stalker, sided with the Monsters Inc. Mafia",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "sneak": {
    "command": "stalk",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 46,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mayor",
    "translation": "Hamm",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "To some people, you’re just a piggy bank, but your voice seems to mean the most in the group, only rivaled by Wall-E. Use your +4 votes to heavily weigh in on the voting process!",
    "info": "A mayor with four votes, who can hax distractors, sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 4,
    "hax": {
    "distract": {
    "revealTeam": 0.2,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mayor2",
    "translation": "Wall-E",
    "side": "mafia",
    "help": "Since you and Eve have the longest lifespan of all of your enemies, you have the highest number of votes in the game (A whopping 1337, to be specific). Use your massive voting abilities, plus the knowledge of your partner, to dominate the game! Be careful though, as there’s nothing protecting you from anyone’s powers at night…!",
    "info": "A votekiller, who is sided with the Wall-E mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": "werewolf"
    },
    "vote": 1337
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "spy",
    "translation": "Dug",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "side": {
    "random": {
    "mafia": 0.2,
    "mafia1": 0.2,
    "village": 0.2,
    "godfather": 0.2,
    "fish": 0.2
    }
    },
    "help": "You were caught underneath someone’s porch, because you love them. From your porch, you sure do seem to see a lot of what’s going on. Use /love during the dayphase to show everyone just how much you love them! And guess what, since you’re so loveable, you can win with every side!",
    "info": "A conspirator who can reveal themselves during the day, and gets hax on most commands.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "love": {
    "command": "reveal",
    "revealmsg": "Hi. I love you. My name is ~Self~. Let’s be friends!"
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.5,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.5,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    },
    "distract": {
    "revealTeam": 0.5,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    },
    "protect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.5,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "godfather",
    "translation": "Merida",
    "side": "godfather",
    "help": "Straight from the highlands, you have taken over the scene with your impressive archery skills. You can poison one person a night with your specially-laced arrows, and you can kill one person during the standby phase. Don’t worry about being revealed, you’re good enough that no one will ever see you coming!",
    "info": "A godfather role who gets a poison and a daykill. Sided with the Brave Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 22,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "limit": 69
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "And with one single arrow from her quiver, ~Target~ is no more. You can all thank Merida for that…"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "vigilante",
    "translation": "Buzz Lightyear",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "As a member of the Toy Story Village, it’s your job to take care of all the bad guys out there. Armed with the lasted weaponry from infinity and beyond, you are one of the strongest warriors at play! Use /kill at night to destroy the person of your choice!",
    "info": "A vigilante who is sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 13
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bullseye",
    "translation": "Bullseye",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Woody's faithful sidekick! People may overlook you at times, but that doesn't mean your not important! Granted you have 0 votes, but anyone who kills you in the day will surely be sorry...",
    "info": "A bomb with zero votes, who is sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0,
    "daykill": "revenge",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ tried to kill ~Self~, but they sure showed them a thing or two!"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "transformer",
    "translation": "Mr. Potato Head",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Ugh. All these monsters and robots just waltz in here like they own the place, and you don't even know where you left your arm. After three nights, you can use /slinky [name] to become a bodyguard for your team, or /buzz [name] to become a vigilante!",
    "info": "A transformer (bodyguard or vigilante after n3), who is sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "slinky": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 31,
    "newRole": {
    "bodyguard": [
    "transformer"
    ]
    },
    "initialrecharge": 3,
    "convertmsg": "~Old~ found his protecting arm, and is now ~New~!"
    },
    "buzz": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 31,
    "newRole": {
    "vigilante": [
    "transformer"
    ]
    },
    "initialrecharge": 3,
    "convertmsg": "~Old~ found his fighting arm, and is now ~New~!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "barbie",
    "translation": "Barbie",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You're a little overprotective, but that can be a good thing! In this case, you can /safeguard one person at night! Sadly, you only have half of a vote.",
    "info": "A safeguarder with 0.5 votes. Sided with the Village.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "night": {
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafia1",
    "translation": "Sully",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Just another day at Monsters Incorporated! Use your screams to /kill enemies at night!",
    "info": "A killer who is sided with the Monsters Inc. Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 19,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "nemo",
    "translation": "Clownfish",
    "side": "fish",
    "help": "Well. You did have another role. Now you're a fish! Your main goal in life is to not get flushed down the toilet. In the meantime, your team can /kill one person at night!",
    "info": "A shared-killer who is sided with the Finding Nemo Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 16,
    "broadcast": "team"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bruce",
    "translation": "Bruce",
    "side": "fish",
    "help": "Fish are friends. Not. Food. This whole not eating fish thing is pretty difficult. You can use /friend at night to choose someone to befriend, and they'll turn into a teammate!",
    "info": "A converter who is sided with the Finding Nemo Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "friend": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 34,
    "recharge": 2,
    "newRole": "nemo",
    "canConvert": [
    "villager",
    "miller",
    "armymen",
    "bodyguard",
    "werewolf",
    "hooker2",
    "sneak",
    "mayor",
    "mayor2",
    "godfather",
    "vigilante",
    "bullseye",
    "transformer",
    "mafia1",
    "conspirator2",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "samurai"
    ],
    "silent": false,
    "convertmsg": "Uh-Oh. Bruce caught another one. Looks like there's another Nemo swimming about."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "marlin",
    "translation": "Marlin",
    "side": "fish",
    "help": "Yikes! Your son Nemo is off gallivanting throughout the ocean! You're in desperate search of him, and you can use your /inspect powers at night, to see if he's disguised as any of these 'mafia players,' but you're wrong half the time...",
    "info": "An inspector who is sided with the Finding Nemo Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 43,
    "Sight": {
    "true": 0.5,
    "werewolf": 0.2,
    "samurai": 0.15,
    "villager": 0.15
    }
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "conspirator2",
    "translation": "Boo",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You sure do know your way into the hearts of monsters, don’t you? Use your adorableness to /distract people at night. You have the ability to poison one (and only one!) person in the game with your adorableness! You also have -2 votes, since no one can really take you seriously…",
    "info": "A distractor with -2 votes, and a one-time poison, who is sided with the Monsters Inc. Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 10,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "limit": 1
    },
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1
    }
    },
    "vote": -2,
    "startup": "team-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mafiaboss2",
    "translation": "Mike",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You may only have one eye, but it only helps increase your level of perception. You can /inspect one person at night. Share this information with your teammates. You can also /kill at night, but it’s probably best to leave this to Sully while he’s alive.",
    "info": "A killer and inspector sided with the Monsters Inc. Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 19,
    "broadcast": "team"
    },
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 40
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal",
    "avoidHax": [
    "inspect"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "samurai",
    "translation": "Woody",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "THERE’S A SNAKE IN MY BOOT. Howdy there, partner. You can lasso someone to death in the day phase, but you’ll be revealed. It’s a good idea to be cautious while Merida is still alive and what not… Oh, and you know who your faithful pal Jessie is! That’s one person you don’t have to worry about as an enemy.",
    "info": "A revealing daykiller who knows Jesse, and is sided with the village.",
    "actions": {
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": "hooker2"
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ rides back to the toy box, carrying ~Target~ in a body bag..."
    }
    }
    }
    }
    ],
    "roles1": [
    "bodyguard",
    "mafia1",
    "inspector",
    "werewolf",
    "villager",
    "hooker2",
    "villager",
    "villager",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "armymen",
    "mayor",
    "spy",
    "bullseye",
    "miller",
    "villager",
    "vigilante",
    "villager"
    ],
    "roles2": [
    "bodyguard",
    "inspector",
    "mafia1",
    "werewolf",
    "hooker2",
    "vigilante",
    "mayor",
    "villager",
    "armymen",
    "miller",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "villager",
    "transformer",
    "bullseye",
    "godfather",
    "villager",
    "villager",
    "conspirator2",
    "samurai",
    "spy",
    "miller",
    "sneak",
    "armymen",
    "mayor2",
    "barbie",
    "mafiaboss2",
    "bruce",
    "villager",
    "armymen",
    "marlin",
    "mafia1",
    "villager",
    "villager"
    ],
    "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    "vigilante",
    "samurai",
    "bodyguard",
    "mayor"
    ],
    "killmsg": "~Player~ (~Role~) has been returned to the toy box!",
    "killusermsg": "What a shame; no one wants to play with you anymore..."
    }
    [/HIDE]

    The classic Pixar films, all stuffed into one mafia theme. Here are some summarized role descriptions, organized by side.

    Toy Story Village:
    Aliens (Villagers, Little Hax)
    Army Men (Shared Kill, Knows Each Other, 0.5 Votes)
    Barbie (Safeguarder, 0.5 Votes)
    Bo Peep (Miller, Inspects as Eve)
    Bullseye (0 Votes, Daykill Bomb)
    Buzz Lightyear (Nightkill)
    Hamm (Mayor, +3 Votes, Distractor Hax)
    Jessie (Distract) (Knows Woody)
    Mr. Potato Head (Can convert to bodyguard or vigilante after 3 nights)
    Rex The Dinosaur (Inspector)
    Slinky Dog (Bodyguard, +2 Votes)
    Woody (Revealing Daykill) (Knows Jessie)

    Wall-E Mafia (Knows Each Other):
    Eve (Nightkill, Kills Distractors, Low priority)
    Wall-E (1337 Votes)

    Monster Mafia (Knows Each Other):
    Boo (Distract / 1 Poison / -2 Vote)
    Mike (Inspect / Kill)
    Randall (Sneak)
    Sully (Kill)

    Brave Mafia:
    Merida (Non-Revealing Daykill, Poison)

    Finding Nemo Mafia:
    Bruce (Converter w/ Recharge)
    Marlin (Inspector, 50% Correct)
    Clownfish (Shared Nightkill)

    Dug (Non-Action Conspirator, Spy)

    Priorities:
    [1] Boo (Distract)
    [4] Jessie (Distract)
    [6] Barbie (Safeguard)
    [7] Slinky Dog (Protect)
    [10] Boo (Poison)
    [13] Buzz Lightyear (Kill)
    [16] Clownfish (Kill)
    [19] Sully/Mike (Kill)
    [22] Merida (Poison)
    [25] Eve (Kill)
    [28] Army Men (Shared Kill)
    [31] Mr. Potato Head (Convert)
    [34] Bruce: (Convert)
    [37] Rex The Dinosaur (Inspect)
    [40] Mike: (Inspect)
    [43] Marlin: (Inspect)
    [46] Randall: (Sneak) [/HIDE]

    Edits:
    Edit 1: Fixed Andy's Daykill Message, Nerfed Boo down to 1 poison and -2 votes.

    Edit 2: Army men now have a shared kill, know each other, and half a vote. Bullseye is added as a 0-Vote Daykill Bomb.

    Edit 3: Nerfed Alien's hax rate.

    Edit 4: Hamm gets distract hax, Randall (Stalker) added to Monster's Mafia

    Edit 5: Bo Peep is a miller inspected as Eve, Mr. Potato Head can convert to a Bodygaurd or Vigilante after three nights.

    Edit 6: Slinky Dog has 2 votes, slightly changed alien hax rate.

    Edit 7: Added Finding Nemo Mafia: Bruce (Converter) and Marlin (Inspector)

    Edit 8: Barbie added as a safeguarder

    Edit 9: Bruce now has recharge. Marlin only inspects correctly 50% of the time. Nemo's name changed to Clownfish.

    Edit 10: Alien/BoPeep, Hamm, and Dug's hax rates were lowered to a reasonable medium.

    Edit 11: Kill and Kill User Messages Added![/HIDE]

    If this theme does decently well, and is liked, I'll add more Pixar franchises to it (Bug's Life, Incredibles, Cars, etc.). I didn't include a spy originally for the village, but I may add it to balance things out later. Other than that, I really want to see how this theme plays out, and then I can make balance changes, etc. Also, I have Dory tons of spy hax just to see how it would affect the game.

    As most themes, I tried to make it as different from any current mafia theme, and something that could have as much appeal as themes such as SSBB+, Kirby, FF, etc. From the little words I've gotten, the theme seems to be likeable, in the sense of what the theme is, and I've fixed the actual gameplay criticisms I got (Second distractor, Army Men acting as Luigis, etc.) Please give me all your criticisms and comments, so I can tweak and morph the theme into something that people actually enjoy playing. Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2012
  2. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    Andy's daykill has the same message as Merida's daykill.
     
  3. Zzyzx Road

    Zzyzx Road Member

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    Boo's role looks overpowered. Should be alone, I think.

    0.2 is too high for a villager hax. Imagine the role repeats a few times and it effectively becomes 50%.
     
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  4. Wiljuice

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    noitsnotwhatareyoutalkingaboutasdgfhjkrg. Fixed. Thanks. (:

    She originally didn't have the poisons, but then she technically wouldn't be able to win the game alone, which she should be able to, so I nerfed her poison down to 1 and her votes down to -2.
     
  5. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I think that you should spread out your villagers a little bit more. Where is bullseye? He is the coolest horse ever. Also, in your roles list you are missing some of your roles, like Bo Peep.

    I like the idea of this theme. I love Wall-e too.
     
  6. Zzyzx Road

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    Dory's role is really cool, I like it.

    Wall-E Mafia is almost like Kefka's Posse, though; and while I enjoy the simplicity of this, I'll wait a bit until I have a concrete opinion


    Edit - roles repeat a lot too. Two vigilantes in small games sounds confusing, and you could have a few more roles for the mafia side, to add variety, especially when each role is based on a unique character. Except the Aliens, indeed.
     
  7. Samphire

    Samphire Too much hard work!

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    I think making Nemo a miller might be entertaining. =0

    Otherwise, I do like the concept of the theme. The village is like a bog-standard village though, so I don't know if you wanted to think outside the box for that in regards to further improvements.
     
  8. Wiljuice

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    Bo Peep and Army men were originally in the theme, but I edited them out of the roles list because a lot of people said that the village didn't need WeegeeConnectors and a second distractor, so I removed their roles from the list but not from the code just in case I tweaked them and added them back later.

    I couldn't think of an actual role to give Bullseye, but I'll probably add him in some way when I add the Incredibles side, which is the next one I plan to add.

    Yeah, Wall-E Mafia is essentially based on Kefka's Posse. Just so it wouldn't be a blatant copy, I made Eve's priority the lowest of all the killers, and she can be haxed. I also had originally planned on Bo Peep being inspected as Eve, but I decided against it. And deciding the roleslist was the hardest part in my opinion, and I probably should take a second look and edit it. Thanks!


    EDIT:

    Yeah, the village is pretty standard. I'm trying to find ways to make it more interesting, but that's easier said than done. Going through all these comments and what not is starting to get ideas flowing, though.
     
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  9. Samphire

    Samphire Too much hard work!

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    You could add the toy soldiers for a shared nightkill, perhaps?
     
  10. Wiljuice

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    Thanks for the idea, Samphire.

    New Edit:

    Villager Roles Added:
    Army Men (Shared Kill, Knows Each Other, 0.5 Votes)
    Bullseye (0 Votes, Daykill Bomb)

    Roles list massively edited, and priorities slightly edited.
     
  11. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Yes! That edit is awesome. :) I think that Bullseye is a great add. :) Hopefully your theme will get approved because i would love to play it.
     
  12. Wiljuice

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    Just saw this edit -- Nerfed Alien's hax rate.
     
  13. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    My love of Pixar films makes me biased, but this seems to be shaping up into a great theme (think I said that before). I appreciate how you didn't put in every character from every pixar film evar right away and have 20 million sides, because while those themes are cool, we have too many of them. I'd say expand on the pre-existing sides before you add in new ones, especially since roles are pretty vanilla atm. That is all.
     
  14. Wiljuice

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    That's my main goal right now, is to try and make the roles as interesting as possible, while not making anyone over-powered.

    Edits:
    - Hamm now gets hax on distractors
    - Randall, a stalker for the Monster's Mafia

    Question: Does the Wall-E Mafia seem overpowered to anyone? I can't decide if I should nerf them a bit or not...
     
  15. JaxenPenguin

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    @Wiljuice I think you may have switched up the names Andy and Woody because in your roles in the thread you have Woody and in the coding the description givin' would be of Woody but the name in the coding is Andy.


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    If you nerf Wall-e team my only suggestion for nerfing this is changing kill distractor into ignore distractor. Other than that it's only 2 people so the chance of the team dying early in the game is quite big.
     
  16. Wiljuice

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    I hate myself for not noticing the Andy/Woody switches.
    And I'm being really indecisive over the Wall-E mafia side, and I'm contemplating changing it completely. I haven't quite decided over it yet. But thanks for the opinion, and thanks again for noticing my error. :x
     
  17. Tesla Elesa

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    No, the Wall-E mafia seems fine to me. I mean FiM has that same Kuja/Kefka combination with Celestia and Luna, in addition to them avoiding day and nightkills respectively, and luna having higher priority than other mafia killers, and they're not that OP. They were at first, but with the other sides growing bigger and stronger as I added to the theme, they eventually balanced out (sorta) in the OP continuum.
     
  18. Wiljuice

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    New edit:

    Bo Peep is now a miller, who inspects as Eve.
    Mr. Potato Head is a transformer, who can convert into bodyguard or vigilante after 3 nights.
     
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    Slight Bump, but really to post edits:

    Slinky Dog now has 2 votes, and I edited the villager hax rates a little again.
     
  20. Tesla Elesa

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    Wait, Eve doesn't inspect as Bo Peep. And if she did, that would be stupid because then they would inspect as each other and inspector would know who was who.
     
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    Eve isn't supposed to inspect as Bo Peep, just the other way around. Did I code that? o_O
     
  22. Tesla Elesa

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    Yeah, you wrote that in the description for Eve.
     
  23. Wiljuice

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    Whoops, thanks for that. I think I was trying to say something different but I can't even remember.

    Should I go ahead and add the Incredibles mafia side, or try and expand the existing sides? If I added them, they would not show up until big games because I believe that the roles we have now is perfect for a thirty-or-so person game.
     
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    You have quite enough sides. That said you don't want it to run too far away in complexity. Otherwise, you'd need to weaken the existing sides a bit.
     
  25. t3 the third

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    With a full-fledged 4-player mafia side, another side should be added honestly. By the way, add the Slinky Dog and Hamm to "villageCantLoseRoles". Army Men hypothetically can't win in 1v1 so yeah :x
     
  26. Wiljuice

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    Conflictionsasdfghjkl;

    Also, added those two roles to the village can't lose roles. I'll decide on the fifth side as more opinions are posted on the matter..
     
  27. Zzyzx Road

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    well it's all up to you who you will actually add :x

    I was just pointing out some stuff to stay careful with in case you are adding more sides
     
  28. Wiljuice

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    /My current idea for a fifth mafia side that's actually different from the rest, would be Bruce (from Finding Nemo), who would could "eat" a player, and then said player would be turned into a "nemo" (a simple fish, who would have a shared kill between him/her and their fellow nemos. If this were to be implemented, would it make the village too weak against the other sides or no..? Just throwing ideas out here before I actually code it.
     
  29. Wiljuice

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    Slightly Bump, Mostly Edit:

    Added in the fifth mafia side, which does not show up until very late in the game, the Finding Nemo Mafia.

    Bruce acts as a converter, who can change one person into a Nemo at night, which in returns gets a shared nightkill between his/her fellow Nemos.
    I may add a recharge to the convert, just in case the team seems too OP, but I think it's more underpowered at the moment. Maybe that's just me.

    Anyway, I'm trying to get this theme to the point where it can actually be judged and voted upon. I guess it's a good them that the QCs are giving me a chance to fix the theme, and make it better, before rejecting it (which don't get me wrong, I appreciate), but I just feel like it's kind of going around in circles. Maybe this newest addition will help decisions.

    tl;dr: new mafia side :D
     
  30. Wiljuice

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    Not to triple post, but I'd really like to know how everyone feels about the new side, whether it's overpowered/underpowered, and how it balances things out. This theme can't be too bad, because it hasn't gotten rejected yet, but I'm just trying to get it to the level of acceptability that's necessary for it to be enjoyable..

    Also, edited roles list around again, trying to accommodate the new mafia side.
     
  31. Zzyzx Road

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    I thought I'd already posted after that add o.o

    I like the Finding Nemo mafia quite a lot, but it's rather simple and Nemo should have team-reveal, I think.
     
  32. Wiljuice

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    EDITS:
    Added Marlin (Inspector) to the Nemo mafia, so that they can know who to convert, but I gave it a recharge so that he can only use it every other night, so that they wouldn't be able to inspect PRs every night.

    All members of the Finding Nemo Mafia get team reveal.

    Realized I never changed Boo's poisons from 3 to 1 in the code. This has been fixed.

    Edited the priorities: Orders have changed and the numbers are easier to work with. This list has also been included in
    tags in the original post.

    Added "info" to all roles.

    I don't plan on adding any other sides. I'm currently happy with the roles, and if anything I would just change things about individual roles, rather than add more. I find the current set-up to pretty balanced, but that's just me. Hopefully it's near the point of acceptance.
     
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    I think you need "canConvert": "*" for your convert to work. Also, having a PR converted would be sad - maybe add a safeguarder to aid the village in the second bodyguard's place?
     
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    Fixed the convert code, and added Barbie as a safeguarder.
    Rex and Barbie cannot be converted.
     
  35. Wiljuice

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    Bumping so we can hopefully get this theme finished.
     
  36. Angel Flonne

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    Yay for Pixar and its creations!
    I lol'd at Bruce. Good job making friends, buddy! I thought you'd never be able to mak-- *shot*

    You should also tone down the size of the help messages. NotthatIdontmakelonghelpmessages

    And Marlin is a good idea. :3
     
  37. Wiljuice

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    Yeah, I may have went a bit overkill of the messages. I'll edit them all once this gets finished, that way I don't have to go back and edit any changes in the meantime.

    And thanks for your love of the Finding Nemo Mafia. :D
     
  38. Wiljuice

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    Bumped because next-to-no criticism on the latest update and I can't really do much without it... :x
     
  39. Tesla Elesa

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    Let's see:
    >Bruce seems rather OP. With near universal converts like this, you should nerf it so Fish don't completely dominate after a few turns; especially since you don't have a role to convert them back. jk Either a failChance or a recharge would work; I would go with a recharge since failing a command gets annoying.
    >Nemo should be a unique role since there's only one of him in the movie. You should call it a "Fish Friend" or "Clownfish" or "Fish" or something. Just not Nemo.
    >No, I like the long help messages since they add flavour, which is always nice. Just read all the text I wrote for WWII and FiM. A bit of flavour makes your theme that much lovable and unique.
    >Since Marlin is so obsessive in the movie, perhaps you could make it so that he wrongly inspects people half the time instead of having to wait? Maybe something like this:
    Code (text):
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    2. {
    3. "role": "marlin",
    4. "translation": "Marlin",
    5. "side": "fish",
    6. "help": "Yikes! Your son Nemo is off gallivanting throughout the ocean! You're in desperate search of him, and you can use your /inspect powers at night, to see if he's disguised as any of these mafia players. However you are rather obsessive and may get confused...",
    7. "info": "An inspector who is sided with the Finding Nemo Mafia.",
    8. "actions": {
    9. "night": {
    10. "inspect": {
    11. "target": "AnyButTeam",
    12. "common": "Self",
    13. "priority": 43,
    14. "sight": {
    15. "true": 0.5,
    16. "werewolf": 0.1,
    17. "samurai": 0.1,
    18. "armymen" 0.1,
    19. "villager": 0.2
    20. }
    21. }
    22. },
    23. "startup": "team-reveal"
    24. }
    25. }
     
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    I agree that failchance is annoying, so I made it a recharge. Marlin as an insane inspector is interesting, so I implemented it. Also, I see why it shouldn't be named "Nemo," so I renamed it to "Clownfish."

    Thanks for the ideas and criticism, I wish I got more of it, aha. (: