Your favourite sweeper and wall

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  1. Gtfo

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    Ok, since the last thread got a few replays i decided to make a new one: Who is your favourite sweeper, who is your favourite wall and why? My favourite sweeper has to be either offensivecune, or dragon dancing ttar with lum berry. The reason why is simple, nobody will ever think of a lum ttar or an offensive cune and because of this fact i get suprising kills, like breloom who switches on suicune, rotom, celebi, and blisseys trying to status my T-tar as i dance etc etc... As for the wall i will go for Rotom because it cripples so many stuff with Will-o-Wisp and sometimes can be a bitch ;)
    So what about you?
     
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  2. Sleuth

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    I run lum t-tar, as Rotom slayer...

    Anyway, my favourite wall has gotta be Gastrodon. After a couple of curses, it's really quite tough to bring down!
     
  3. Gtfo

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    i just realized i didnt put the wall ;O,
    must edit now.
     
  4. Ginku

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    My favorite sweeper is DDtar too, also with lum (scary). im actually trying sub instead of EQ to REALLY use those rotoms for my goal, or more accurately to not get beaten by scizor and flygon (who is weak and predictable, to troll around a bit) which ruin my sweep if theyre there (assuming i get to +1 before i meet rotom). didnt come to use it i the 3 test matches though.

    as for walls..... while i dont think its a hard wall, i gotta say its rotom too, because it actually kills stuff and doesnt just stand there, unlike celebi.
     
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    mm maybe i should try substitute too, since as soon as my opponents see my ttar, they switch into either flygon or scizor..
     
  6. Marche Radiuju

    Marche Radiuju crush it casually

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    Gtfo that Suicune of yours is balls. Suicune doesn't have enough immediate threat in this metagame, and just can't keep up with Starmie O;

    My favourite sweeper? Piloswine when he has the chance(but, as a lead, he is strictly a surprise unit. Any physical walls that come in are fair game, though), and Nasty Plot Encore Raichu, for lots of luls. My favourite wall, by far, is Shuckle, because of his amazing staying power, while Dusclops has held a special place in my heart since RSE.
     
  7. Gtfo

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    After 1 or 2 Calm Minds: Suicune>Starmie
     
  8. Marche Radiuju

    Marche Radiuju crush it casually

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    Except for the no Recover part. And the no Natural Cure.
     
  9. Gtfo

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    I can deal with it nicely.
     
  10. Platinum

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    Suicune is Suicune, Starmie is Starmie, they have different pros and cons ^^
     
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    Right, it also depends on the team you use, so we cant actually say who is best.
     
  12. Sleuth

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    YAY LUM BUDDIES =D

    Rotom is so irritating... its' stats aren't even impressive, it just sits there and resists things.
     
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    Lum is just the right item on Dragon Dancing Sweepers (T-tar, D-nite) just because everyone try to status you, and it lets you set up on more pokes =D
     
  14. Azlanslayer

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    Ha! Its of course Gallade, it acts both as my wall and attack <3. Bulk Up + Wish :D. Anyways, as for the wall, its going to be ROTOM-H. Woohoot! God, that Fuckin Motor Guy is a beast, beating Blissey by using Trick :D. Even beating tyranitar with WoW. What can i say, Rotom is a beast, a beast that is made froma Motor. As for Gallade, my set <3, PRO PRO PRO

    Yeah, thats so lame. t(o.ot)
     
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    Bulk Up Gallade is quite cool. I tested him once, results were mediocre, but I guess I didn't use him right. What's with the Rotom love pplz? Dusknoir deserves a big hug.
     
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    I love Dusknoir too, but Rotom is defintiely more usefull.
     
  17. Luck>Skill

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    I love Dusknoir, if he had Levitate, he would have been > Rotom.

    My favourite sweeper is...umh...bulky ddance Gyara, or swords dance Weavile, or swords dance Jumpluff (lol)...or...umh...enough

    My favourite wall? Err, Sandslash or Articuno :3
     
  18. Azlanslayer

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    O.o. Well, Gallade, Gyarados, Dragonite and ARCEUS! is my FAV Sweeper. Also ENTEI! Entei is such a beast, he should NOT be NU, He should be UU atleast, Being a Beast, ah, to much to say. Oh Arceus, Ghostceus rocks, unable to be revenge killed by those freaking Extremespeed, those random pokemon carrying Vacuum Waves and Mach punches, a BEAST, STAB Shadow Claw <3. What could i say about Dragonite? after +1, outrage does hell alot to THOSE who even resist it, shows how nite > mence.

    Favourite wall, hmm, Rotom! ROTOM! Woohoo! Rotom, kills everything in OU :D. So, pro. resistance to every priority attack, counter to SCIZOR. Makes to so pro :3. Any another wall... oh yeah GLISCOR! It blocks,stallbreaks,counters. nothing to say much...

    Yeah, lame.. -.- bored lol.
     
  19. destinybond

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    Rotom doesn't resist all priority attacks...aqua jet, ice shard are two it doesn't resist. There's also shadow sneak and sucker punch, which hit it for super effective damage. In fact, with both shadow sneak and Mach punch being available, nothing resists all priority.
     
  20. Cpt. Falcon

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    im sure he means more common priority moves like bullet punch... but speaking of ice shard, mamoswine is deffinently my favorite sweeper with blissey being my favorite wall :/
     
  21. Gtfo

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    Rotom doesnt take much from ice shard or aqua jet so it isnt a problem. Even a shadow sneak from gallade doesnt 2hko.
     
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    My favorite wall is defiantly Celebi, I know I will probably get ripped apart for saying that, but I find it works. Although I like Articuno on the odd occasion I actually get it to work.

    Favorite sweeper is probably Dragonite, he may not be the best, but I love the fact that the original dragon can actually do something now.
     
  23. champagne papi

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    My favorite sweepers are Gyarados and Gengar, Gyarados, because of impressive bulk, Dragon Dance, versatility and probably one of the only pokemons that can afford a +atk nature, and Gengar, because it can OHKO Rotom when he lost his scarf and is unresisted with 2 moves.
    My favorite wall is in Ubers, it's Lugia, but when talking OU, I like Bronzong a lot. Probably the pokemon that pulls off Gyro Ball with the most power, access to dual screen, only 1 weakness, and Levitate. It can use Rest without fearing being KO'd when sleeping, and it's sturdy on both sides. And it's kinda cool! Bronzong
    is the filler of the team, the man who will erase any mistakes. With Heatran as a friend, it can completly wall a team.
     
  24. meztips

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    Gallade 2hkos after a swords dance which it carries often.
     
  25. Groudon Ramsay

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    As if you need to ask XP

    Jolly SD Lucario is just <3
    Vaporeon is also <3

    That is all.
     
  26. Platinum

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    I think Entei was kicked out of NU already Azlan :D

    My favorite sweeper and wall, of course, is Shaymin ^^ How cool, Shaymin can be both a wall and a sweeper x) (what we call it, lemme see, tank right?)
     
  27. Stofil

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    My favourite sweeper is probably bulky DD gyarados, if you team him up with something like Flygon or Electivire you'll set up on a lot of stuff and keep momentum going. Of cousrse Rotom kind of ruin you but that's where a lumttar can come in and wreck stuff like a pro.

    As for a wall, acupressure shuckle is pretty ballers, but I also enjoy sleeptalk spiritomb and Curse Cradily. Of course both of those are NU, but they are absolute monsters under sand which, surprise surprise, is very often seen in OU.

    EDIT: I would say Dusknoir, but he's much, MUCH better as a subpuncher then an actual wall.
     
  28. Gtfo

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    Also true, but recently i only seen those anti-lead Gallades, and it has been a while since i saw a SD one. Yes if he gets an SD up it is a 2hko, but on the first attack you can always burn him, and then try to regain some health with pain split, or just switch out.
     
  29. Azlanslayer

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    Nah, Entei is still NU on smogon, not officially changed tier. So yeah, he deserves to be UU :D
     
  30. Ginku

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    he IS in UU, its just a matter of tiime till it gets changed on smogon.
     
  31. Lady Umb

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    Favourite Sweeper : Lucario.
    Favourite Wall : Cresselia.

    @ Azlan : The NU here is different than Smogon's, they don't even test it and let broken things allowed.
     
  32. Luck>Skill

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    Actually, shoddy hasn't even got a NU ladder (at least on Smogon's server), so I guess that Smogon doesn't care much about NU...anyway, Entei and Espeon were voted BL2 from Project NU, so yeah, they are UU
     
  33. Platinum

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    Yes, I don't rely on Smogon to tell which Pokemon is NU, I base on the NU project ^^

    And soon Smogon will have the tier change, it's September already :)
     
  34. Professor Oak

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    Can we please keep this topic on track? If you wish to discuss NU, find the Project NU thread and post in there.
    Anyway, on Pokemon Online, Espeon and Entei are banned from NU. End of discussion.

    Turns out I haven't answered this myself. Huh. Anyway, Choice Band Aggron is my favourite sweeper this gen. That Head Smash is awesome. Such a shame that he needs so much support.
    My favourite wall has to be my bedroom wall. It's funky. I also quite like Skarmory.
     
  35. Hectord25

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    Sweeper: Metagross, Priority moves don't deal any damage to him(specially when he has the Agility +2 speed boost), and because Metagross has GREAT Attack Power.
    Wall: Cresselia, even a +2 Tyranitar's Crunch can't OHKO her(with the right evs in defense).
     
  36. meztips

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    Sweeper: Rock Polish Groudon. It can take out most things in Ubers in one hit, except Giratina and Lugia with earthquake, dragon claw, and stone edge. The only problems are really skarmory and forretress but stone edge can be switched with overheat to get OHKOs on both of them no matter what in sun.
    Wall: Giratina. Best physical wall in the game thanks to Will O Wisp and extremely high defenses.
     
  37. Plaatinum10

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    Metagross sweep with ninjask and magmortar on NU. I seriously hate roar. and roar.
     
  38. Grind Pantera

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    Favorite sweeper? Swords Dance Infernape or Dragon Dance Life Orb Tyranitar. They're both incredible.

    Favorite wall? Probably Spikes Roserade or specially defensive Skarmory.
     
  39. Crystal Moogle

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    Sweeper
    Absol or Mismagius

    Wall
    Milotic
     
  40. Lil'E

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    Rock Polish Rhyperior for sweeper.

    As for wall... well, hmm. I suppose Swampert if he counts.