Theme: SSBB+

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  1. Demonic Cake

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    And so I return with the only one of my themes that someone else had a major hand in the roles; SSBB+!
    {
    "name": "SSBB+",
    "author": "Cake",
    "summary": "This theme definitely captures the craziness of Nintendo's Super Smash Brothers Brawl game. The Brawlers will have their hands full as the villains from some of Nintendo's biggest franchises try to destroy them, including Wario and his sneaky poison, Meta Knight and his UBER daykilling, the Ice Climbers ability to distract during the night as well as kill, and lastly the Pokemon Mafia. Originally created by Hoboman 2.0, some parts added by jaysraysdays, and the theme currently being maintained by Cake - PM her with any problems, suggestions etc. If you're looking for the original, it's back on SSBB. (Edits: I think I fixed Poke Ball/Assist Trophy. Yay. Also Poke Ball and Assist Trophy come in a lot sooner, and working on more! Added: Munchlax, an Exposer, Hammer Bro, a Protector. Gardevoir got nerfed, though. Their conversions also move first to prevent safeguard blocking it!)",
    "sides": [
    {
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "translation": "Pokemon Mafia",
    "winmsg": "The Pokemon Mafia, ~Players~, made their opponents faint!"
    },
    {
    "side": "hand",
    "translation": "Two Hands",
    "winmsg": "The Two Hands, ~Players~, regained their control!"
    },
    {
    "side": "subspace",
    "translation": "Subspace Army",
    "winmsg": "The Subspace Army, ~Players~, took over the Brawl universe!"
    },
    {
    "side": "meta",
    "translation": "Meta Knight",
    "winmsg": "Meta Knight (~Players~) won his honourable duel!"
    },
    {
    "side": "koopa",
    "translation": "Koopa Tribe",
    "winmsg": "The Koopa Tribe, ~Players~, breathed fire over all opposition!"
    },
    {
    "side": "wario",
    "translation": "Italian Mafia",
    "winmsg": "The Italian Mafia, ~Players~, won with their poisoning tactics!"
    },
    {
    "side": "dedede",
    "translation": "Penguin Mafia",
    "winmsg": "The Penguin Mafia, ~Players~, hammered their foes!"
    },
    {
    "side": "ice",
    "translation": "Ice Climbers",
    "winmsg": "The Ice Climbers (~Players~) came out top!"
    },
    {
    "side": "village",
    "translation": "Brawlers",
    "winmsg": "The Brawlers, ~Players~, made the Brawl universe fair to all!"
    },
    {
    "side": "wolf",
    "translation": "Wolf",
    "winmsg": "'Can't let you do that, Star Fox.' says ~Players~!"
    },
    {
    "side": "2d",
    "translation": "2D",
    "winmsg": "Mr Game and Watch (~Players~) proved that 2D is best!"
    },
    {
    "side": "kirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "winmsg": "~Players~ ate everyone. Guess that's it. (> ^-^)>"
    },
    {
    "side": "assist",
    "translation": "Assist Trophy",
    "winmsg": "How did ~Players~, the one summoned from the Assist Trophy, win alone?!"
    },
    {
    "side": "poke",
    "translation": "Poke Ball",
    "winmsg": "How did ~Players~, the one summoned from the Poke Ball, win alone?!"
    }
    ],
    "roles": [
    {
    "role": "villager",
    "translation": "Mario",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Mario! If you don't know who he is, get out from under your rock! You don’t have any special commands during the night, but you do have a tiny chance to find out who is going to be killed! Vote to remove people in the day!",
    "info": "A villager who may hax kill or poison. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.07,
    "revealPlayer": 0.04
    },
    "poison": {
    "revealTeam": 0.06,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "sonic",
    "translation": "Sonic",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Sonic the Hedgehog, the fastest thing alive! People who kill you, get killed themselves, and if the kill is a daykill, you even survive! However, due to being so annoying, your vote counts as 0.",
    "info": "A day and night bomb with a vote of 0. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0,
    "kill": {
    "mode": "killattacker",
    "msg": "±Sonic: You're too slow!"
    },
    "daykill": "revenge",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ attempted to kill Sonic, but ~Self~ was just too fast, luring ~Target~ off the stage before they could react!"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "luigi",
    "translation": "Luigi",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Luigi, King of Second Bananas! Use your Negative Zone to make your vote -1, and you also know your fellow Luigis - use this information to help the Brawlers!",
    "info": "A villager-like role with a vote of -1, who knows all other Luigis. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": -1,
    "startup": "role-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "lucas",
    "translation": "Lucas",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Lucas, amazing PSI extraordinaire. Type /inspect [name] to find their identity! Due to being a minor, your vote only counts for .5 though.",
    "info": "An inspector with a vote of 0.5. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 30
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "lucario",
    "translation": "Lucario",
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "help": "You are Lucario, a newcomer to the brawl, bringing your aura powers with you! With them, you might be able to find killers, and your vote increases to three. Tell Jigglypuff or Pikachu your findings!",
    "info": "A spy with 3 votes. Sided with the Pokemon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 3,
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ness",
    "translation": "Ness",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Ness, PSI extraordinaire from Eagleland! Because of your mastery of PSI, you can type /protect [name] to protect someone! You can also use /safeguard [name] to protect someone against poison, although it also protects against inspect and distract! PSI also allows you have a small chance of finding out who gets killed next, and there is no action necessary for this! Your vote counts for .5 though, due to being a minor.",
    "info": "A bodyguard and safeguarder with 0.5 votes and a chance of kill hax. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 4,
    "broadcast": "role"
    },
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6,
    "broadcast": "role"
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.3,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dk",
    "translation": "Donkey Kong",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Donkey Kong, fairly huge ape! Type /protect [name] to protect someone! You can protect two people, due to your giant size. Because you are an ape, you are immune to distraction!",
    "info": "A bodyguard who can protect two and not be distracted. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 5,
    "broadcast": "role",
    "limit": 2
    }
    },
    "startup": "role-reveal",
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore",
    "msg":"~Distracter~ came to you, but you weren't interested."
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bowser",
    "translation": "Bowser",
    "side": "koopa",
    "help": "You are Bowser, Koopa King, and eternal nemesis of Mario! Type /kill [name] to kill someone!",
    "info": "A basic Mafia. Sided with the Koopa Tribe.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "Bowser's flames were too much to handle!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "wolf",
    "translation": "Wolf",
    "side": "wolf",
    "help": "You are Wolf, the dude who can't let Star Fox do stuff! Type /kill [name] to kill someone! In addition, if you get distracted, you will kill them instead!",
    "info": "A killer who is unable to be haxed and kills distractors. Sided with himself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 9,
    "msg": "Can't let you do that, player."
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "You tried to distract Wolf, and he shot you. It was an accident.",
    "msg": "The ~Distracter~ came to you last night. You were trying to be nice but shot her by mistake."
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "peach",
    "translation": "Peach",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Peach, Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom! Type /distract [name] to distract someone by making them tea! Due to being a princess, your vote counts as 2; and once during the game, you may poison another player with your horrible tea, with /givetea!",
    "info": "A distractor who has two votes and a one-time poison with her horrible tea. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "night": {
    "givetea": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 10,
    "command": "poison",
    "recharge": 38245,
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Peach's horrible tea killed you!"
    },
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 3,
    "distractmsg": "Peach made tea for you, and it would be impolite to decline. Luckily, it didn't poison you.",
    "teammsg": "Your partner had tea with Peach whilst you were waiting for them, so you couldn't do anything."
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "puff",
    "translation": "Jigglypuff",
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "help": "You are Jigglypuff, a singing pink blob! Type /sing [name] to distract someone, and /kill [name] to defeat someone with Rest!",
    "info": "A killer and distractor. Sided with the Pokemon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 19,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Pokemon Mafia's attacks took you down!"
    },
    "sing": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 2,
    "command": "distract",
    "distractmsg": "Jiiiiiii-gglyyyyyyyy-puffffffffff...you fell asleep!",
    "teammsg": "Jigglypuff made your partner sleep...you feel pretty sleepy, too!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "falcon",
    "translation": "Captain Falcon",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Captain Falcon, F-Zero Racer! You dont have any special commands during the night. Vote to remove people in the day, your vote counts as 3, because YOU ARE A FREAKING CAPTAIN! Use /kill [name] to remove people with a falcon punch during standby! You will be revealed.",
    "info": "A revealing samurai with 3 votes. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 3,
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name]!",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ pulls out a fist and punches it through ~Target~'s chest! FALCON PAUWNCH!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "spy",
    "translation": "Snake",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Solid Snake, commando of FOXHOUND! You can find out who is going to get killed or poisoned next! (no command for this ability) Vote to remove people in the day! You can type in /sneak, too - it will allow you to find out who your target visited that night, if anyone!",
    "info": "A spy who can hax kill and poison, and find out who someone visited on any night. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "sneak": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "command": "stalk"
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.35,
    "revealPlayer": 0.15
    },
    "poison": {
    "revealTeam": 0.25,
    "revealPlayer": 0.15
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "game",
    "translation": "Mr Game and Watch",
    "side": "2d",
    "help": "You are Mr Game and Watch, a 2D player! Type /kill [name] to kill two people with your Judge attack!",
    "info": "A killer who can kill two, cannot be haxed, and kills distractors. Sided with himself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "limit": 2,
    "msg": "Beep beep! Mr Game and Watch's Judge attack knocked you off!"
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "You tried to distract Mr Game and Watch; you got hit with his Judge attack on #9 and flew off the screen!",
    "msg": "The ~Distracter~ came to you last night, so you used Judge...and got #9. She flew off the screen!"
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "link",
    "translation": "Link",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Link! Who knows which one though... Type /kill [name] to kill two people using the Master Sword! Try not to kill the good people, and especially Sonic.",
    "info": "A vigilante with two kills. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 19,
    "limit": 2,
    "msg": "Hyaaaah! Link defeated you with the Master Sword!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "samus",
    "translation": "Samus",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Samus Aran, amazing bounty hunter! Use /kill to fire a missile at another player; your Power Suit prevents you from being poisoned or distracted. You can use /zero to switch to Zero Suit Samus during any night!",
    "info": "A vigilante who is immune to poison and distract, and can switch to her Zero Suit form. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "poison": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    },
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 20,
    "msg": "Samus' missile was right on target."
    },
    "zero": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "zero",
    "canConvert": [
    "samus"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Samus shed her Power Suit!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "zero",
    "translation": "Samus",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Having shed your Power Suit, you are now more agile! Type /fling to throw a piece of your shattered Power Suit, and /distract to use your Paralyzer! Your increased agility also gives you a chance of evading nightkills, and you can regain your Power Suit at any time with /power.",
    "info": "A vigilante with a distract and 30% chance of evading kills, and can regain her Power Suit. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "evadeChance": 0.3
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "fling": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 20,
    "command": "kill",
    "msg": "Samus'...piece of Power Suit was right on target."
    },
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 3,
    "distractmsg": "Bzzzt! Samus' Paralyzer stopped you from acting!",
    "teammsg": "Your partner was paralyzed by Samus!"
    },
    "power": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "samus",
    "canConvert": [
    "zero"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Samus regained her Power Suit!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "pika",
    "translation": "Pikachu",
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "help": "Pi...ka...chuuuuu! As the electric mouse who is Pikachu, you can thunderbolt your foes during the night with /kill [name]!",
    "info": "A basic mafia. Sided with the Pokemon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 18,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Pokemon Mafia's attacks took you down!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "wario",
    "translation": "Wario",
    "side": "wario",
    "help": "You are Wario, the rather chubby Anti-Mario! Type /poison [name] to poison someone, which causes them to die the next night! You also have a slight chance of discovering people who have the protect command!",
    "info": "A poisoner who has a chance of haxing protectors. Sided with the Italian Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Wario's poison took effect!"
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "protect": {
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "warioman",
    "translation": "Wario Man",
    "side": "wario",
    "help": "You are Wario Man, Wario's Alter Ego! Type /kill [name] to kill someone! Type /poison [name] to poison someone, and they will die the following night, and this goes through protect!",
    "info": "A poisoner with an added kill. Sided with the Italian Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Wario's poison took effect!"
    },
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 10,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "msg": "Wario Man's pure power defeated you!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dedede",
    "translation": "King Dedede",
    "side": "dedede",
    "help": "You are King Dedede, the greedy king of Dreamland! Type /kill [name] to kill someone! Your vote counts for 4.",
    "info": "A killer with four votes. Sided with the Penguin Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 4,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 13,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "msg": "Dedede used his hammer and squished you."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dee",
    "translation": "Waddle Dee",
    "side": "dedede",
    "winningSides": ["meta"],
    "help": "You are a Waddle Dee, the rather innocent servant of the greedy king of Dreamland! Type /protect [name] to protect someone, preferably Dedede. You also evade daykills due to being inconspicuous, and inspections reveal you as Mario, due to you being pure of heart! Your vote counts for -1.5, due to being a servant - use this to save Dedede or your fellow Waddle Dees from being voted off! If Dedede does happen to die, seek Meta Knight - you can win with him, too!",
    "info": "A protector with a vote of -1.5, who inspects as Mario, evades daykills, and can win with Meta Knight. Sided with the Penguin Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": -1.5,
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 7,
    "broadcast": "Team"
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "villager"
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ganon",
    "translation": "Ganondorf",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "You are Ganondorf, a general of the Subspace Army who hails from Hyrule! Type /kill [name] to kill an enemy of Subspace; distracters shall be unable to affect you!",
    "info": "A killer who ignores distractors. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Subspace Army turned you into a trophy."
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "subbowser",
    "translation": "Bowser",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "You are Bowser, Koopa King and a general of the Subspace Army! Type /kill [name] to kill someone; your vote counts as 2 because you are a king; you can also grab a Smash Ball after five turns and transform into Giga Bowser with /transform!",
    "info": "A killer with a vote of 2, who can transform into Giga Bowser after 5 turns. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "night": {
    "transform": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "giga",
    "canConvert": [
    "subbowser"
    ],
    "initialrecharge": 5,
    "convertmsg": "Watch out, Bowser got a Smash Ball!"
    },
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Subspace Army turned you into a trophy."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "giga",
    "translation": "Giga Bowser",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "ROAAAAR! Having transformed into the fearsome Giga Bowser, you can kill during the night with /claw, poison with /poison, AND kill during the day, too - although this has a 20% chance of revealing you - also with /kill! Due to your intimidating nature, you also have 2 votes as before!",
    "info": "A killer and poisoner with a vote of 2, who can daykill but has a 20% chance of revealing in the process. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use /kill to unleash your fury!",
    "killmsg": "...Giga Bowser caught up with ~Target~...they were defeated near-instantly, with no hope of defending themselves.",
    "revealChance": 0.2,
    "revealmsg": "~Self~ roars in triumph!"
    }
    },
    "vote": 2,
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "The Subspace's combined poisons defeated you!"
    },
    "claw": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "command": "kill",
    "msg": "Giga Bowser caught you..."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "subwario",
    "translation": "Wario",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "You are Wario, Anti-Mario and a general of the Subspace Army! Type /poison [name] to poison someone, which causes them to die the next night; you also might be able to find people who can protect!",
    "info": "A poisoner who might hax a protector. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "The Subspace's combined poisons defeated you!"
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "protect": {
    "revealPlayer": 0.15
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "meta",
    "translation": "Meta Knight",
    "side": "meta",
    "help": "You are Meta Knight, the honorable and badass mysterious captain of the Halberd. Type /kill [name] during the day phase to kill someone! You will not be revealed when you kill, and you are allied with yourself! You also know the Waddle Dee, who can protect you once Dedede is out; you should not contact them until then, however!",
    "info": "A non-revealing daykiller. Sided with himself.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name]!",
    "killmsg": "Meta Knight pulls out the holy sword, Galaxia, and strikes it through ~Target~'s chest!"
    }
    },
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "dee"
    ]
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "marth",
    "translation": "Marth",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Marth, king of Altea! Type /kill [name] during the day phase to kill someone! You will not be revealed when you kill, but do try not to kill the good people.",
    "info": "A non-revealing samurai. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name]!",
    "killmsg": "Marth pulls out a sword and strikes it through ~Target~'s chest! Critical Hit!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "fox",
    "translation": "Fox",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Fox! Lucas can't really tell the difference between you and Wolf very well, so he sees you as Wolf. Sorry about that.",
    "info": "A miller who inspects as Wolf. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "wolf"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ice",
    "translation": "Ice Climbers",
    "side": "ice",
    "help": "You are the Ice Climbers. You are two people, technically, so your vote counts as 2 during the day! You can /hammer [name] to kill someone during the night, and you can also /distract [name] to distract someone during the night.",
    "info": "A mafia who can kill and distract, and has two votes. Sided with themselves.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "hammer": {
    "command": "kill",
    "common": "Self",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "priority": 16,
    "msg": "The Ice Climbers' teamwork was greater than your skill!"
    },
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4,
    "distractmsg": "Brrrr! The Ice Climbers froze you!",
    "teammsg": "The Ice Climbers froze your partner...you're pretty cold, too."
    }
    },
    "vote": 2
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "pit",
    "translation": "Pit",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You dont have any special commands during the night! Vote to remove people in the day!",
    "info": "A miller who reveals as Meta Knight, and is told they're Mario. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "meta"
    },
    "lynch": {
    "revealAs": "pit"
    },
    "startup": {
    "revealAs": "villager"
    },
    "onlist": "meta"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "tabuu",
    "translation": "Tabuu",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "You are Tabuu, leader of the Subspace Army! During the day, use your Off Waves with /kill [name] to trophify any player! Warning, this will reveal you...you may also use your Chain of Light during the night with /kill!",
    "info": "A mafia with a revealing daykill. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Subspace Army turned you into a trophy."
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You can trophify now using /kill [name]:",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ spreads their wings, and sends out three Off Waves! Everyone managed to dodge except ~Target~ who was too slow..."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "master",
    "translation": "Master Hand",
    "side": "hand",
    "help": "You are Master Hand, the right hand of the Two Hands of Final Destination! Use /poke [name] to poke someone to death during the night. Your hidden power also allows your vote to count as 5!",
    "info": "A killer who pokes people to death and has a vote of 5. Sided with the Two Hands.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poke": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 15,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "command": "kill",
    "msg": "Master Hand poked you to death!"
    }
    },
    "vote": 5,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "crazy",
    "translation": "Crazy Hand",
    "side": "hand",
    "help": "You are Crazy Hand, the left hand of the Two Hands of Final Destination! Use /laser [name] to fire a laser at someone during the night, which will kill them the night after... Your hidden power also forces your vote to count as -5!",
    "info": "A poisoner with a vote of -5. Sided with the Two Hands.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "laser": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 15,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "command": "poison",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Crazy Hand's LASER BEAAAAAAAM destroyed you..."
    }
    },
    "vote": -5,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "pkmn",
    "translation": "Pokemon Trainer",
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "help": "You are the Pokemon Trainer! During the night, you can support your team with your Pokemon in three different ways; Squirtle can block attacks with its shell with /protect [name], Ivysaur can ward off poison with /safeguard [name], and Charizard can use Flamethrower on an opponent with /kill [name]! However, due to not being part of the fight yourself, you get a vote of 0.",
    "info": "A killer, protector and safeguarder, with a vote of 0. Sided with the Pokemon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 19,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Pokemon Mafia's attacks took you down!"
    },
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5
    },
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "olimar",
    "translation": "Olimar",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Olimar, employee of the Hocotate Freights. Due to the multitude of Pikmin you have with you, you have a vote of 6! Also, due to your space suit, you are immune to poison!",
    "info": "A mayor with a vote of 6, who is immune to poison. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 6,
    "poison": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "rpikmin",
    "translation": "Red Pikmin",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a Red Pikmin! You instinctively know your fellow Pikmin and Olimar. Being a Red Pikmin, your strength lets you roam further and find out who's being protected!",
    "info": "A protect-haxer with a vote of -1. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "protect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    },
    "vote": -1,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "bpikmin",
    "ypikmin",
    "olimar"
    ]
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bpikmin",
    "translation": "Blue Pikmin",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a Blue Pikmin! You instinctively know your fellow Pikmin and Olimar. Being a Blue Pikmin, your ability to survive in water lets you lurk around and find out who's being distracted!",
    "info": "A distract-haxer with a vote of -1. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "distract": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    },
    "vote": -1,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "rpikmin",
    "ypikmin",
    "olimar"
    ]
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ypikmin",
    "translation": "Yellow Pikmin",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a Yellow Pikmin! You instinctively know your fellow Pikmin and Olimar. Being a Yellow Pikmin, your large ears make you able to listen better and find out who's being inspected!",
    "info": "An inspect-haxer with a vote of -1. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    },
    "vote": -1,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "rpikmin",
    "bpikmin",
    "olimar"
    ]
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "kirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "kirby",
    "help": "(> ^-^)> You're Kirby! You can eat a player without transforming during the night with /eat; also you can use /bowser, /dedede, /jigglypuff, /lucas or /metaknight to permanently transform into your form of that role, and join their side!",
    "info": "A killer who can switch to his own version of Bowser, Dedede, Jigglypuff, Lucario or Meta Knight. Sided with himself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "eat": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 9,
    "command": "kill",
    "msg": "Kirby ate you! You were very tasty."
    },
    "bowser": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "bowserkirby",
    "canConvert": [
    "kirby"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Kirby ate Bowser and transformed!"
    },
    "dedede": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "dededekirby",
    "canConvert": [
    "kirby"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Kirby ate King Dedede and transformed!"
    },
    "jigglypuff": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "puffkirby",
    "canConvert": [
    "kirby"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Kirby ate Jigglypuff and transformed!"
    },
    "lucas": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "lucaskirby",
    "canConvert": [
    "kirby"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Kirby ate Lucas and transformed!"
    },
    "metaknight": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 21,
    "newRole": "metakirby",
    "canConvert": [
    "kirby"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Kirby ate Meta Knight and transformed!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bowserkirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "subspace",
    "help": "Having eaten Bowser, you joined the Subspace Army! You can share a kill with them by typing /kill, however due to not being a /real/ King like Bowser himself, you have a vote of -1.",
    "info": "A killer with a vote of -1. Sided with the Subspace Army.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": -1,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Subspace Army turned you into a trophy."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dededekirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "dedede",
    "help": "Having eaten Dedede, you joined the Penguin Mafia! You can kill another player with /kill - separate from Dedede - and have a vote of 2.",
    "info": "A killer with a vote of 2. Sided with the Penguin Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 14,
    "broadcast": "Team",
    "msg": "You were inhaled by Kirby!"
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "puffkirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "pkmafia",
    "help": "Having eaten Jigglypuff, you joined the Pokemon Mafia! During the night, you share a kill with your team via /kill, and can distract a player every other night with /sing.",
    "info": "A killer who can distract every other night. Sided with the Pokemon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 19,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The Pokemon Mafia's attacks took you down!"
    },
    "sing": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 2,
    "command": "distract",
    "recharge": 2,
    "distractmsg": "Jiigglyy...Kirby? Kirby sang to you, and you were too interested to act.",
    "teammsg": "Kirby sang to your partner? Not the weirdest thing that could happen here, but it interested you nonetheless."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "lucaskirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Having eaten Lucas, you joined the Brawlers! During the night, you can find the identity of a player with /inspect, but only every other turn.",
    "info": "A role who can inspect every other night. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 30,
    "recharge": 2
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "metakirby",
    "translation": "Kirby",
    "side": "meta",
    "help": "Having eaten Meta Knight, you joined his side! During the night, you can use /sword to defeat a player in a duel, and during the day you can use /kill to use Mach Tornado - but as you are not used to the move, it will reveal you, so be wary! ",
    "info": "A killer with a revealing daykill. Sided with Meta Knight.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "sword": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "command": "kill",
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "Kirby used his newfound sword abilities to defeat you!"
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "You may use Mach Tornado using /kill!",
    "killmsg": "Kirby used Mach Tornado, throwing ~Target~ off the screen! ~Self~'s tornado then faded."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "assist",
    "translation": "Assist Trophy",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You are an Assist Trophy! Use /break on yourself to break open and reveal the character inside! In either form, you win with everyone.",
    "info": "A role which can convert into a helper role. Sided with itself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "break": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 0,
    "newRole": { "resetti": ["assist"], "waluigi": ["assist"], "dog": ["assist"], "metroid": ["assist"], "isaac": ["assist"], "hammerbro": ["assist"] },
    "convertmsg": "The Assist Trophy broke, revealing a helper!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "resetti",
    "translation": "Mr. Resetti",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You are Mr. Resetti, famed raging mole from Animal Crossing! Use /reveal during the day to rant and reveal yourself to help whichever team you wish, being unable to be daykilled; your vote counts for 0.5, however. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "An annoying revealer who cannot be daykilled and has a vote of 0.5. Sided with himself but wins with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "standby": {
    "reveal": {
    "limit": 1,
    "msg": "Reveal now with /reveal!",
    "revealmsg": "~Self~, Mr. Resetti, yells: 'Hey, punk! Ya just don't give up, do ya? You the forgetful type? This is your THIRD reminder not to reset! When you suddenly quit, that gets flagged as a RESET...hey, stop hitting me!...oh, you didn't reset? I tunnelled up in the wrong place? Darn kid keeps resetting, it's driving me crazy. Well, I'll let ya off the hook for now. But one last thing... LEARN TO AIM!'"
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "waluigi",
    "translation": "Waluigi",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "WALUIGI TIME! You are Waluigi, Luigi's alter-ego; you have the opposite to his votes!...which makes it a boring one. You can also kill during the night with /kill, and as people don't want to be near you, you drive off distractors! Waaaaaaa. You win with anyone, even Luigi.",
    "info": "A killer who can't be distracted. Sided with himself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 15,
    "msg": "Thought you were surviving tonight? Too bad, Waluigi time!"
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ignore",
    "msg": "~Distracter~ came to you, but you scared them off. WAAAAAA."
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dog",
    "translation": "Nintendog",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "WOOF. You are a Nintendog! To be precise, a Labrador Retriever. Anyway, use /distract to get in someone's way! You win with anyone.",
    "info": "A distractor. Sided with itself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "distractmsg": "The Nintendog blocked your screen!",
    "teammsg": "The Nintendog blocked your screen!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "metroid",
    "translation": "Metroid",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You are a Metroid! Use /poison to cling onto someone's head and drain them. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "A poisoner. Sided with itself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "poison": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 11,
    "poisonDeadMessage": "The Metroid drained you!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "isaac",
    "translation": "Isaac",
    "side": "assist",
    "help": "You are Isaac, from Golden Sun! During the day you can expose any player with your Move ability, moving them into the spotlight, with /expose. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "An exposer. Sided with himself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "expose": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use /expose to push one into the limelight!",
    "exposemsg": "Isaac pushed ~Role~ into the spotlight, the crowd cheered for ~Target~!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "poke",
    "translation": "Poke Ball",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You are a Poke Ball! Use /open on yourself to break open and reveal the Pokemon inside! In either form, you win with everyone.",
    "info": "A role which can convert into a Pokemon. Sided with itself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "open": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 0,
    "newRole": { "goldeen": ["poke"], "gardevoir": ["poke"], "electrode": ["poke"], "suicune": ["poke"], "gulpin": ["poke"], "munchlax": ["poke"] },
    "convertmsg": "The Poke Ball opened, revealing a Pokemon!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "goldeen",
    "translation": "Goldeen",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "Derp, you got Goldeen. Use /reveal to splash during the day, and connect whoever you like. Your vote is also 0.5, but you can't be daykilled. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "A revealer who cannot be daykilled and has a vote of 0.5. Sided with itself but wins with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "standby": {
    "reveal": {
    "limit": 1,
    "msg": "Reveal now with /reveal!",
    "revealmsg": "Splash, splash. ~Self~ the Goldeen is splashing around. Do they think they're a Magikarp?"
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "gardevoir",
    "translation": "Gardevoir",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You got Gardevoir! You create a psychic barrier, which can reflect back attacks such as projectiles. Therefore, you can /safeguard anyone you like (including yourself!) during the night! You win with anyone.",
    "info": "A safeguarder. Sided with itself but wins with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "Any",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 6
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "electrode",
    "translation": "Electrode",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You got Electrode! Being a bomb, you will inevitably explode on whoever tries to defeat you! You win with anyone.",
    "info": "A day and night bomb. Sided with itself, but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": "killattacker",
    "msg": "±Electrode: BOOM! You were too near Electrode as it exploded, who knocked you off the screen!"
    },
    "daykill": "bomb",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "KABOOM! ~Target~ was too near Electrode when it exploded..."
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "suicune",
    "translation": "Suicune",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You got Suicune! You evade all nightkills due to freezing anyone who comes near, and have a vote of 2.45 from your grace. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "A nightkill evader with a vote of 2.45. Sided with itself, but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2.45,
    "kill": {
    "mode": "ignore"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "gulpin",
    "translation": "Gulpin",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "Gulp. You got Gulpin. You can Swallow anyone with /distract, but you spit them out eventually. You win with anyone!",
    "info": "A distractor. Sided with itself but wins with everyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "distractmsg": "Gulp. You got swallowed by Gulpin!",
    "teammsg": "Your partner was swallowed by Gulpin, keep away or you'll join them..."
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "yoshi",
    "translation": "Yoshi",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Gulp! You are Yoshi, the cute green dinosaur! During the day, you can type /expose to eat someone and reveal their role; you also cannot be daykilled!",
    "info": "An exposer who cannot be daykilled. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "expose": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use /expose to eat someone and reveal them!",
    "exposemsg": "Gulp! ~Self~ ate ~Role~ and left an egg! The egg cracked, revealing ~Target~."
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ike",
    "translation": "Ike",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are Ike, from Fire Emblem! If any opponent attacks you, you will use Counter against them, defeating them; in the day, this will save you, too! You also have your own nightkill, with /kill, but you can only use it once and it will reveal you. Finally, your vote is 2.",
    "info": "A day and night bomb with a one-time daykill and a vote of 2. Sided with the Brawlers.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "kill": {
    "mode": "killattacker",
    "msg": "±Ike: Ha, you try to attack? *counters*"
    },
    "daykill": "revenge",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ tried to kill Ike! But ~Self~ grabbed their sword and Countered the move!",
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 15,
    "recharge": 38245,
    "msg": "GREAAAAAAAAAT...AETHERRRRRRRRRRRR!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "munchlax",
    "translation": "Munchlax",
    "side": "poke",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "Gulp? You got Munchlax! You're very hungry. Use /expose to mistake a player for food, and reveal their (and your) identity in the process! You win with anyone!",
    "info": "An exposer. Sided with itself but wins with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "expose": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use /expose to mistake a player for food!",
    "exposemsg": "Munchlax found some food!...wait, that's just ~Target~, the ~Role~. Easy mistake to make~"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "hammerbro",
    "translation": "Hammer Bro",
    "side": "assist",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "You are a Hammer Bro, an enemy from Super Mario Bros! You throw hammers, as your name implies, and can aim them to block attacks on anyone you like (including yourself) with /protect! You win with anyone!",
    "info": "A protector. Sided with himself but wins with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "Any",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 5
    }
    }
    }
    }
    ],
    "roles1": [
    "dk",
    "bowser",
    "lucas",
    "wolf",
    "peach",
    "fox",
    "bowser",
    "villager",
    "fox",
    "poke",
    "villager",
    "falcon"
    ],
    "roles2": [
    "dk",
    "pika",
    "lucario",
    "lucas",
    "peach",
    "villager",
    "luigi",
    "luigi",
    "villager",
    "wario",
    "poke",
    "falcon",
    "meta",
    "spy",
    "bowser",
    "dedede",
    "ness",
    "assist",
    "warioman",
    "puff",
    "bowser",
    "sonic",
    "samus",
    "dee",
    "villager",
    "ice"
    ],
    "roles3": [
    "dk",
    "pika",
    "lucario",
    "lucas",
    "peach",
    "luigi",
    "luigi",
    "kirby",
    "villager",
    "ganon",
    "poke",
    "falcon",
    "meta",
    "spy",
    "pit",
    "dedede",
    "ness",
    "assist",
    "subbowser",
    "puff",
    "master",
    "sonic",
    "samus",
    "dee",
    "luigi",
    "ice",
    "subwario",
    "pkmn",
    "game",
    "luigi"
    ],
    "roles4": [
    "dk",
    "pika",
    "lucario",
    "lucas",
    "peach",
    "luigi",
    "luigi",
    "kirby",
    "villager",
    "ganon",
    "falcon",
    "poke",
    "meta",
    "spy",
    "pit",
    "dedede",
    "ness",
    "assist",
    "subbowser",
    "puff",
    "master",
    "ike",
    "samus",
    "dee",
    "luigi",
    "ice",
    "subwario",
    "pkmn",
    "game",
    "luigi",
    "marth",
    "yoshi",
    "dee",
    "crazy",
    "wolf",
    "olimar",
    "villager",
    "tabuu",
    "pit",
    "dee",
    "luigi",
    "villager"
    ],
    "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    "sonic",
    "falcon",
    "link",
    "marth",
    "samus",
    "peach",
    "olimar",
    "zero",
    "ike"
    ],
    "killmsg": "+Announcer: ~Player~ (~Role~) has been thrown off of the screen!",
    "killusermsg": "You have been thrown off the screen!"
    }
    Now, SSBB+ is a theme based off SSBB. Still hopefully obviously. It occured after I took control of SSBB and Hoboman wanted it back, which is a story for someplace else told by someone else because I don't feel like telling it and it's irrelevant here anyway. Anyway. It involves many characters from all over the Nintendo universe as in the game, plus the summoning items of Assist Trophy and Poke Ball which become a random role from their list! (currently shorter than the true list from the game, but I'm working on it~) My next planned update is a Boss Trophy replacing Tabuu which has all the bosses from SSE. Including two formes of Tabuu, one with broken wings (the current one) and one unbroken (more powerful and alone). This actually makes sense as I think he has two trophies anyway. But anyway, the roles: due to them not being as ordered as Pokemon I will put them in (mostly) alphabetical order by team:
    2D
    Mr Game and Watch is the godfather of the theme after Jigglypuff's demotion, and it makes more sense because he has two hammers and Jigglypuff can only hit one with Rest.
    Assist Trophy
    Assist Trophy: A conspirator with multiple potential conversions, all of which are also conspirators:
    Hammer Bro: A protector who blocks stuff with hammers!
    Isaac: An exposer who works by making the crowd cheer for the exposee.
    Metroid: The only poisoner with the potential to win with the good team in the game.
    Mr. Resetti: A revealer, who - taking a cue from Animal Crossing, his home game - has a long, lengthy speech for his reveal message.
    Nintendog: A distracter who basically gets in the way.
    Waluigi: A distract-ignoring killer, who has the opposite to Luigi's votes!...one.
    Brawlers:
    Blue Pikmin
    Captain Falcon: The mayor-samurai, CF is truly worthy of his Captain title with three votes and a revealing daykill.
    Donkey Kong: A double-protector who ignores distractors, straight from the start. Pretty useful, although makes early games a bit easy; I might end up replacing with Diddy in small games if people think it's a good idea.
    Fox: A replacement for the original miller Kirby, Fox is a lot easier to mistake for a bad, in this case Wolf, especially by the little kid that is Lucas.
    Ike: Basically a bomb replacing Sonic, Ike also has a one-time kill and a vote of 2. I was being harassed to add him somewhere, so~
    Kirby: Kirby having eaten Lucas, he has an inspect every other night.
    Link: A role from the original that is currently not in use, Link was a double Vigilante with a tendency to hit Sonic.
    Lucas: An inspector with a slight twist, a vote of 0.5. This is justified as he's just a kid.
    Luigi: The inspiration for the Luigi role archetype, a role with -1 vote that knows all others of its kind. Not the most seen archetype, but good for connecting! One of my edits was that Luigi became a Kuja and was replaced by the Pikmin, but this was reverted due to popular demand.
    Mario: A basic banana-villager, except with the addition of being able to hax poison as well as kill, likely due to Wario.
    Marth: The village equivalent to Meta Knight, fitting as they travelled together for a time; Marth is the non-revealing samurai of the village.
    Ness: Another kid with 0.5 votes, but he's a lot more useful than Lucas due to having protect, safeguard AND killhax. No poison hax, though.
    Olimar: A mayor with 6 votes from the maximum amount of Pikmin he can have and an immunity to poison. This was at one time reduced to three plus knowing the three -1 vote Pikmin.
    Peach: A PL with two votes, and a twist...her distraction is caused by her tea, and it wouldn't be nice to decline her offer, but the tea is horrible at best, poisonous at worst - Peach gets a onetime poison with /givetea, which can ruin the plans of many teams.
    Pikmin: A retired role which replaced Luigi but had hax in the same way as the Unova starters in Pokemon; one hax on inspect, one protect and one distract. They were retired when Luigi stopped being Kuja and returned to Second Banana status.
    Pit: A miller in larger games who thinks he's Mario but inspects - and is shown as - Meta Knight.
    Samus (Power Suit): Samus in her Power Suit is the main Vigilante, being immune to distract and poison due to her suit. She can shed said suit to use her Zero Suit powers.
    Samus (Zero Suit): Swapping poison and distract immunity for evasion chance and a distract, Zero Suit Samus is better for those who prefer the chance of avoiding a true kill.
    Snake: A Brawl newcomer, Snake acts as the Spy in the theme; he also has a stalk known as /sneak.
    Sonic: For reasons I'm not entirely sure of but will not change now, Sonic is the bomb of the theme, however he survives daykills. He has a vote of 0, too.
    Yoshi: An exposer, added by demand; he eats roles and waits for them to pop out of the egg.
    Ice Climbers
    The Ice Climbers are a pair controlled by one player, so they get a vote of 2, plus one can hammer their foes (which is everyone bar conspirators) to death whilst the other distracts someone with an iceberg. The power of teamwork!
    Italian Mafia
    Wario: Wario formed the base of the Italian Mafia, a mainly-poisoning Mafia group; however he can also get hax on protect. Once Ganondorf turns up, they team up with Bowser to form the Subspace Army.
    Wario Man: Wario Man switches Wario's hax for a separate kill, becoming stronger due to the influence of either a Smash Ball or some reaaaaally nasty garlic.
    Kirby
    Kirby: The first implementation of the idea that would eventually become the two Conspirators, Kirby can transform to a nerfed version of one of five roles, or stay as himself with his kill on his own team. The most common transform is Meta Knight, even though Dedede's is better; Jigglypuff, Lucas and Bowser aren't seen as often.
    Koopa Tribe
    Bowser, the early Mafia who doesn't do much. Upon the arrival of Ganondorf, they and Wario team up to form the Subspace Army.
    Meta Knight
    Kirby: Kirby having eaten Meta Knight, he has a revealing daykill and a kill.
    Meta Knight: A daykiller, who recently gained the ability to know the Waddle Dees; he cannot harm them, but if Dedede is defeated then they may be able to team up with him.
    Penguin Mafia
    King Dedede: Dedede is quite a powerful role; he has a kill and four votes which can really make things hopeless for the village if he's left alive.
    Kirby: Kirby having eaten Dedede; he has a separate kill and a vote of 2.
    Waddle Dee: Originally a WaddleDoo (lack of space included) I edited to Dee as they were more common to be thrown by Dedede. They have a vote of -1.5 (as -2 made games turn into a stalemate), inspect as Mario, evade daykills and, the most important part, protect Dedede. Or Meta Knight, if Dedede is gone and Kirby hasn't joined up; they also win with Meta.
    Poke Ball
    Poke Ball: A conspirator with multiple potential conversions, all of which are also conspirators:
    Electrode: A day and night bomb which I totally did not take direct (except messages) from Pokemon.
    Gardevoir: A safeguarder, as projectiles would be more poison-ish than kill-ish imo and it makes more sense, plus Safeguard in the main Pokemon games...
    Goldeen: A revealer who splashes around like the SSBB-absent Magikarp.
    Gulpin: A distractor, who sort of eats people to distract them; the first of three eating roles in a (near) row.
    Munchlax: An exposer by attempted eating, except unlike Yoshi he doesn't get to eat anyone. Aww.
    Suicune: A kill evader with a vote of 2.45 because 245 would be OP. /Suicunebias and it's his Pokedex number before anyone asks why 245
    Pokemon Mafia
    Jigglypuff: Demoted from GF, Jigglypuff is instead a killer and distracter, singing opponents to sleep...zzz...
    Kirby: Kirby having eaten Jigglypuff, he shares a kill and has a distract every other night.
    Lucario: A role designed so as to provide team support, Lucario has 3 votes it can use to defend itself or its team, whilst its hax can help find opponents to their cause.
    Pikachu: The iconic Pikachu ironically doesn't have much of a role, having merely a kill in comparison to its team.
    Pokemon Trainer: A supporting role, who's Squirtle can protect, Ivysaur can safeguard and Charizard can kill. He doesn't get a vote though, he doesn't do any work of his own.
    Subspace Army
    Bowser: He kills and has a vote of 2, doesn't seem anything special...until he survives long enough, when he can transform into the terrifying Giga Bowser.
    Ganondorf: A generic don mafia, except that his team is more than the usual mafias.
    Giga Bowser: Rarely seen, Giga Bowser is truly powerful. A shared poison with Wario, a separate kill, and a daykill with only a change of revealing...although in the transformation progress he lost his extra vote.
    Kirby: Kirby having eaten Bowser; he shares a kill and has a vote of -1.
    Tabuu: Leader of the Subspace Army and the only role I definitely know who will become part of the Boss Trophy, he shares a kill with the rest and has a revealing daykill. Seems UP for his character? This is after his wings got broken by Sonic, if it were before (as may happen by Boss Trophy) he would be more powerful.
    Wario: A poisoner like before he joined, except he now has more chance of haxing protect.
    Two Hands
    Crazy Hand - Lasers count as poison now. Well, it has to catch up...also -5 votes for having 5 fingers and being insane.
    Master Hand - You get to poke people to death. Is that enough said? No? Well you also get 5 vote, one per finger. o:
    Wolf
    Wolf, the werewolf (for obvious reasons) of the theme. He got a fancy new distract message, as the previous one was taken straight from Default and didn't really fit. Poor Wolf is so misunderstood.
    Some strategies involve trying to kill Dedede as Meta Knight (and Kirby if he joined Dedede's side) and then gaining protection from the Waddle Dees, or claiming Lucas as Sonic/Ike (and if asked, saying you inspected a dead person) so as to lure Meta Knight or another daykiller, or as Kirby waiting a bit to transform and joining the winning team.

    If it does come down to SSBB vs SSBB+, which it shouldn't from what I remember being said but it might now, then I feel SSBB+ should stay as it's being updated more, I'm biased obviously, and I'm actually around. (Hence point 1.)
     
  2. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    Yay SSBB+. First of all, to get this out of the way, I'd like to say that having both SSBB and SSBB+ is detrimental to the server, because while they are both awesome themes in their own right, put together they are started twice as much as any other theme besides default. Too often do I see people starting SSBB right after we've played SSBB+. Ugh. I bet even Cake and Hoboman will have to agree with me on this- too much SSBB(+). I'm not taking sides here though, and I certainly don't want to start anything; I just wanted to get out.

    14 sides? What is this, Pokemon? But yeah, me likey. Poke Ball mechanic is coolio. I think you've got every character (and more) in here. Me likey.
     
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    NAVIDAD PIRATE THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

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    SSBB+ is probably one of the more fun themes to play on the server. Your objective was to capture the chaos of the actual game, and I'd say you definitely nailed it Cake.

    However, there is a such thing as too much chaos. As Tesla mentioned, you have a whopping 14 sides, and although some move around and win with others and whatnot, it just feels like way too much. A few updates ago I feel like there was an equilibrium reached, with the Village against the Subspace/Penguin/Italian/Pokemon/MK. That already seems like a lot of sides, but the way the games played out made it fairly balanced. Ice Climbers and Game and Watch both being solo roles makes it really hard for them to win in any instance (maybe change some commands up and team them?). The additions of the Assist and the PokeBall don't really add much to the game besides PRs for the sake of PRs, and it makes it really confusing for new players trying to jump in and learn. I would say simply try to trim some things down and tone down the theme just a little bit; after all, a little chaos is a good thing.

    Regardless of all of this Cake, you've done a really great job with it. SSBB+ is pretty iconic and definitely should go back onto the channel as soon as possible. We're just trying to make it the best theme it can possibly be.
     
  4. Zzyzx Road

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    Much like Pokemon, myriad of PRs and killfest kind of hold this theme's rating down for me. While it is indeed loved by the community, the constant adds and enourmous number of roles with different actions leave it overloaded - work on this, and just like Pokemon, simplify it, give it more fish and everything looks fine.
     
  5. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    As everyone else said, way to many roles, just like Pokemon. New people will have a hard time to learn all the roles in SSBB+ since there is so many roles in there. While i know that you want to add more and more, you has to remember, that good games doesn't always require new character, you can always find something to a role that is already there.
     
  6. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    Seriously, people. You tell me roles you want added and then you tell me I have too many roles, make up your minds! LIKE with Pokemon, they rotate. Not as much, but...also Assist and Poke Ball are conspirator sides so they don't really count. Same with Kirby, as it changes sides upon transforming. Also the problem with taking over a theme like this is that the coding isn't nearly as organised, giving me a few problems.
    @Twins: I just really don't want conflict, is all :x
    @Meow: I've wanted to add Poke/Assist for a long time, they're interesting roles that aren't just a boring conspirator or even one the same every time. :x I could do something with Ice/G+W but they'd probably get replaced with another team and not taken out of the coding because I only did that for Luigi's brief Kuja stint.
    @Zzyzx: Again, why do people tell me to update then? :x And I did give it more fish. *pokes Goldeen*
    @SR: I just have roles I want to put /somewhere/ and people keep taking away my other themes I could put them in, plus it's supposed to be chaotic like the game...the sides aren't as organised as they could be, but that's what happens if I take over one.
     
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    You have wario on two teams just saying. The Italian Mafia side and the Subspace Army Side. (In description). But he is only in the IM side in the coding.
     
  8. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Italian Mafia and Koopa Tribe are merged into Subspace Army in larger games and, as a result, Wario appears in both sides (but both teams will never be in the same game).
     
  9. Zzyzx Road

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    When you take a theme for your own, its code becomes your own account. If you think it's too messy to work on, recode it from scratch. People ask for updates whenever they think of something they would like to see, without balance or the amount of kills bore in mind. Try to set an approximate player count/deaths-per-round ratio, work on it and, differently from Pokemon, I think no big changes are needed.

    Just reinforcing the lack of villagers makes it a bit too war-ish. Less power roles, or rotate the current ones if you prefer.

    something I forgot - when adding more villagers, give the role smaller chances of hax.
     
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    NAVIDAD PIRATE THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

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    While an extra Mario or two wouldn't hurt, I actually like the war-ish-ness (?) of the theme, as that's exactly how the Wii game works.

    @Cake, if you really want the PokeBall and Assist Trophy in, make them sided with the PokeMafia and Brawlers respectively. I still feel that it's too much, but if you're that adamant about having them in at least put them on a side that follows logically. And if you're not sure what to do with IC and GW you could just take them out and figure out what to do at a later date, and this would also lessen the PR number which a few in the thread seem to want.
     
  11. CarlesNB

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    in my opinion is a nice theme, poke ball really helped to make it funnier and i still think is a nice game. I only have 2 bad things to say(in my opinion)
    1-In small games brawlers are extremely OP, Peach with 2 votes, distract+poison, BG with two protects, a daykiller with 3 votes, and the connectors, obviously, we need or more baddies in small games or just create a weaker PR in little games.
    2-THE HAX, hey, seriously, you can't kill without get haxed, try to make less haxer the village, a bit more haxer lucario, and, maybe, create a different BG command for the Waddle Dee, since Warios hax him always and discover DDD
    I have 0 auth, but i will say, with this change, i will do an unofficial aproval.
     
  12. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    I was going to say this!!! :O

    @Poke Ball/Assist trophy: they are fine as conspirators, because of the Wii game mechanics: they are items and can be used by anybody.

    I really enjoy playing SSBB+, like Meow said, you did a great job mixturing a good mafia theme with SSBB's craziness! But the huge number of sides (and secondarily the huge amount of roles) makes it a difficult theme to be played by newbies. I know you don't want to miss any character (I also don't want to see any of them excluded), but many of them are underpowered on big games like Mr. Game and Watch and Wolf. Maybe creating/modifying some sides, deleting many others and modifying the functions of some roles may be a better way for you to use all the characters. (BTW, most of the roles are playable characters, why don't you take out the pikmins and waddle doo and give their functions to another role?)
     
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    I agree that in theory and practise, and by design, this theme can be summed up in a word. Insane. And given the goal of the theme, I'd say it's well-made up to a certain point. One thing I never understood is why the theme includes PokeBalls and Assist Trophies, but doesn't include all the playable characters. (Falco needs love too).

    I think the best way to improve this theme is to do some calculations on it. If we take a 30 player game as the sample, and work on creating the ideal game from that you can tone down/leave the kills to match the speed of the game you are trying to create. One thing I like about this theme is it doesn't overdo daykillers at most game sizes. Just nightkills.
     
  14. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    I can only agree to this.

    Waddle Doo and Pikmins doesn't play any "major" part in the games, so you could simply take them out and maybe replace them with some characters that aren't there yet, like Falco.
     
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    ok... since is possible this chance I suggest to change Waddle Dee and use Kirby as partner, and maybe he can be like the copper of elements:Can use all the actions once per game.
    And what SSBB role can be used instead of the changing Kirby? Why not R.O.B? he can change to another forms, daykiller, mayor+killer, exposer...
    Is just an idea :p
     
  16. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    Does NO ONE read?
    Pikmin aren't in the game any more, they were a Luigi-replacement when Luigi was Kuja for a short time!

    Seriously, if you're not reading the whole thing (coding excluded) then reviewing isn't really a good idea x:


    Also Waddle Dee was a part of the theme from the start (albeit as the typo'd WaddleDoo) and plays a major part in Dedede's Final Smash, so I'm not taking it out.
     
  17. Yttrium

    Yttrium Well-Known Member Developer Developer

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    What are the Pikmin doing sitting in the code? :x

    Also, if you want this to be approved, you should at least consider people's suggestions, instead of being deadset on not wanting to remove Waddle Dees (or Doos?).

    With that being said, I could say much of the same about this as Pokemon, with so many roles which would lead the confusion. I also wonder, why are Wario and Bowser on different teams only to merge into the same team in larger games? Why not just either keep them separate or together? The amount of kills should be toned down as well, although that goes hand in hand with the large amount of sides.
     
  18. Zzyzx Road

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    ???

    A theme is its code.
     
  19. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    I mean, reading the whole thing as a non-QC member so there's no reason for them to go through the code (in fact, no reason for every single QC member to go through it) when all the roles are detailed in the post. :x

    @Pokeworld: The Pikmin are remnants, I generally keep them currently (although I might change that) for historical purposes. And because Wario and Bowser seem to be working alone in SSE at first and then are shown to be part of the Subspace Army, the theme represents the game in that aspect.
     
  20. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Totally agree with that. But, in this case, why is Tabuu a member of this side?
     
  21. Zzyzx Road

    Zzyzx Road Member

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    I'm kind of focusing in the code which is the essence of a theme in the most literal way, yet I always consider those things I talk about in all my posts so yeah :I

    imo you can't leave unused code unless it is planned to be used again in a near future (like the other miller/conspirator versions in default)

    So ripping off these Pikmin and nerfing the PRs would be priority in fixing matters.
     
  22. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    Unused code should be taken out. Save an old version of WordPad or something if you want history.
     
  23. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    Tabuu is part of the Subspace Army! Master Hand was forced into it so he doesn't count.

    @Zzyzx: And I was told that before today when? Also the majority of the OP PRs were like that when I got it.
    @Steel: Again, I wasn't told that before today...I'll sort that, but not yet, I have something more important to do right now.
     
  24. Zzyzx Road

    Zzyzx Road Member

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    It is your concern now though..
     
  25. NAVIDAD PIRATE

    NAVIDAD PIRATE THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

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    Zzyzx is right, Cake. We didn't have this process when you adopted the theme, but now that we do, you can and should be making changes to it.
     
  26. t3 the third

    t3 the third Member

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    Bumping this. I understand that you received the theme with PRs pretty OP. I'd really like to see the PRs tweaked with a little just to make them less OP. The Brawlers have a great advantage over the mafias and I think everybody wants SSBB to be top-notch when it comes back.
     
  27. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    ^ So, maybe give a few Pr's failChance could be considered a good idea.
     
  28. Zzyzx Road

    Zzyzx Road Member

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    failChance is really frustrating as VB stated before in some other threads - tweaking the commands themselves would be better, I think.
     
  29. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    I would totally recommend adding a Falco role.. maybe as an inspector with the ability to fail. But I do like ssbb+ though
     
  30. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    So it's been close enough to a week (six days) and haven't heard/seen any changes. As much as SSBB+ is popular to the masses I think its' time in the light in its current state isn't meeting with the quality that Mafia QC happens to be looking for. There are wonderful changes that have been outlined above that could bring SSBB+ back but I doubt it will be accepted as is.

    There is just an overload of prs with little-to no strategy required to win. Although this obviously means that people can just pick up and play - that is not the mantra we want themes to be held up to because then any theme could just be considered "easy to play" instead of being intricate and obviously being different than others. I've enjoyed SSBB; but alas it just needs a different flavor and needs to amp up the difficulty that would require some of the characters to either be modified and/or removed IMO.

    So - to say the least it's received a decline from me.
     
  31. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    Decline

    This has potential, really, if made into a more traditional-type set up, rather than noobkiller.
     
  32. BebbZ

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    Revert this back a fairly long way and possibly start re-improving from there.

    Decline.
     
  33. t3 the third

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    This theme hasn't been mentioned in a few days. While SSBB+ is a theme cherished by the Mafia Channel, this is because it is old and most people know it pretty well. New themes are usually badly received unless they have remarkable roles which make it easy to learn. Honestly though, if this theme was uploaded now instead of way back when, it wouldn't be received very well at all. It just doesn't go up to the tighter standards of QC now. SSBB however does have huge potential but now it's been going the wrong way for a while.
    Yes, that means a decline.
     
  34. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Guys, SSBB+ is good on it's own. I think you guys are bashing Cake rudely with your opinions...Cake's only one person - and she has a life, like you and me. Have you considered maybe she doesn't have any time to update the theme? That said, this theme is an EXCEPTION amongst all other themes. It may have many sides, like SSE / Ice Climbers, but that represents Brawl. Brawl is where you take your favorite characters and beat the shit out of your friends. And grab smash balls. Of course, she didn't even have to put in Bowser's Final Smash, or Poke Balls, or Assist Trophies, or Kirby (all of which are very phenomenal and unique roles). But she gave it a surplus of support, and she definitely went out of her way to create this theme.
     
  35. two sides of one coin

    two sides of one coin sick of all her shit

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    I love how Cake attempted to make an original and hectic theme and got shot down like SteelEdges' first ever poll.
     
  36. Zzyzx Road

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    The theme is not originally hers.

    She indeed made a good theme, I guess we're all just trying to get it even better.
     
  37. GameAndWatch

    GameAndWatch Flat is the new swag

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    This theme.... A great theme indeed. Especially MrGaW out there :D But this theme has so much of everything that it makes the game chaotic. (Too many PRS) Only non-Prs I think are Mario and Luigi. Lots of killers indeed, but maybe if you cut back on a bit of everything I would have potential. Believe me, I'm not one you should trust your whole theme on, but I give this theme an unfortunate although temporary decline.
     
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  38. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    As many QC members have stated please do not bold/underline/italicize/and or make yourself appear to be QC unless you are indeed QC @GameAndWatch. Either way - I am in no way bashing and/or critiquing Cake - just the theme. I am thoroughly objective here hence I am declining the theme. If I were to - or any other QC member - were to personalize the situation our opinions' would become bias and with prejudice. SSBB is a kill-fest and has no strategy - did you even read my post? Also - SSBB was originally Hoboman's so it's not like she created the theme from the ground up. Although there are differences the similarities are what make it hard to believe it was a hard transition from SSBB to SSBB+. Regardless I apologize if this seems spiteful I just want to put out there that this is not a prejudicial in any way shape or form and users of mafia need to dispel the misconception that we as the QC have favoritism and generally want to displease everyone. We are making a better Mafia; you may not see it now but we are making our standards higher than what they used to be. Some favorite themes may be lost in this process.

    I am not saying SSBB+ has no chance to be revived - there are several changes that could be made that will revive it granted if user Cake wishes to partake in them. There are several users who I'm sure would be willing to aid in her endeavors to do so; so the ball is in her court.
     
  39. Yttrium

    Yttrium Well-Known Member Developer Developer

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    Decline [5] - Much of the reasons I would say, others have posted before, and a lot of the same things about Pokemon could be applied to this. Make it less of a killfest and more strategic. Also, you really shouldn't being trying to shove every possible feature into one theme, it's just too much and won't work anymore.
     
  40. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    On the decline bandwagon I see?

    Let's give Cake some time to update this. No need to force her to prioritize this over everything else with all the declines.

    This theme could use some updating, yes. However, I feel that it accurately captures the feel of the real game with all the roles and such, and we don't need to revert/combine every mafia into one/delete half the roles/whatever should be done to Pokemon. A few subtle, yet far reaching tweaks here and there would be enough to earn my accept.

    First off, I believe the Poke Ball and Assist Trophy roles should be taken out. I love the random convert mechanic to bits, but they really only compound to the PR overload of this theme. Save them for another theme, maybe. Just not this one.

    Remember, if a side is OP, you don't fix it by making everyone else even more OP. That's not addressing the issue; that's just making it worse. And you haven't done this so far, which is great. Just remember to not do that should you update.

    @PokeWorldBW
    Wait, I thought declines didn't do anything. In any case, we shouldn't lock this thread like we do with rejects.
     
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