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Discussion in 'Review' started by XxkakapaxX, Sep 11, 2012.

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  1. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Ok. Anyways, we are modifying characters (Frieza). Ill edit it later when we finish
     
  2. KoolAid

    KoolAid #FreeKoolAid

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    Question...how does buu turn into Gogeta?
     
  3. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Series or Theme? If series, he cant convert. If theme, secret action.
     
  4. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    That kinda sounds....ridiculous IMO.

    But since this is a theme, then guess It's...legit?
     
  5. XerxesBreak

    XerxesBreak New Member

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    And here we have another update where i have added Mecha Freiza, removed 1 of 100% frieza's nightkills, and after conferring with XxKakapaxX we have decided to add more roles if the theme is accepted as an update people can look forward to.
     
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  6. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    In VERY big games i only see around 4-5 villagers.
     
  7. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    What do you mean? Its like Zelda or FF where there are not many villies.
     
  8. Raiden17

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    I am a HUGE Dragon Ball Fan, and I love the fact that we might finally get a mafia theme of it. This theme looks very good, and I really love all the transformation options! May I suggest that you guys add a larger role for Piccolo, as he played a huge role in the series since the original series? Another thing is that I don’t think Cell Jrs (other than the bg Cell Jr) are needed unless they share 1 out of the 2 kills with Cell. I also think that Dende could play a better role as a Safeguarder than Bulma. Bulma could be the PL instead of Chi-Chi. Also, King Kai could take the role as Spy as it would make more sense. I also think that Absorbed Buu turning into Gogeta makes no sense. Also, the /OMGWTFBBQ command is annoying IMO. I honestly think Gogeta shouldn’t even be in this theme, let alone SSJ4 Gogeta. I also think that Paragus shouln’t be in the theme because Broly with a BG might just be a bit OP. All in All, I love the theme, but some tweaks could be made.
     
  9. Zzyzx Road

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    FF has 7 at its most;
    At the same player count, Zelda has 10.

    My point is dropping one or two roles for fish isn't a bad idea
     
  10. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Actually, we plan on add some more roles if this gets approved, so... Maybe add another type of villies? Like Citizens and Aliens.
     
  11. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    How exactly will those Villy's be different from the current you got?
     
  12. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Different? No. Like what annalist was on FF. Maybe a -1 vote because they are not from earth. We'll see that later, when Xerxes connects.
     
  13. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    Annalist in FF? You gotta be meaning Zelda.....
     
  14. KoolAid

    KoolAid #FreeKoolAid

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    I gotta say, I like that you guys making this theme but it seems like you can't make up your mind on whether or not you wanna stay true to the series or not...I don't see the necessity in having every single Frieza transformation when you have Buu transforming into Gogeta...
     
  15. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    I personally think that Mecha Frieza shouldn't be there. And Buu who transform into Gogeta is stupid IMO.
     
  16. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Fail. xD
     
  17. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Guy, learn to read firsts posts too. What would happen with absorbed buu if the other buu doesnt want to convert him? That ruins the game. There wouldnt be Kid Buu. We wanted to give a chance to keep playing to the guy that was absorbed buu. What do you prefer? Gogeta SSJ4? Nuova Shenron? A geodude? We almost exploded on thinking that, and you say its stupid. Go and think other character that buu could transform into. I know there are a lot, but since I hate DBGT(Thats why no DBGT NEW character is on the theme) and Gogeta SSJ4 is the best one of there....
    ADVICE: Dont expect us to add characters from movies like Boujack, they would make the game way too big and there would be a lot of kills during the night. We still have to add Goten, Trunks, Future Trunks, Androids... We will add them if theme gets approved. (We added Broly, King Vegeta, Bardock, Paragus, Cooler and Turles because we wanted some more characters for sides (Turles and King Vegeta for saiyans, Cooler for Frieza), a GF/WW style role with converts (Broly) and a special character for big games (Bardock).) About villagers, that can be easily modified. We took out alien idea. Maybe add it later with the others...
     
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  18. XerxesBreak

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    ☼ If needed, more villagers can be added into the theme.
    ☼ We needed to give Buu a good excuse for wanting to keep playing if Kid Buu decided not to expel him. That is the ONLY reason for having the /omgwtfbbq command
    ☼ This thing was a bitch to code up, and I really don't want to scrap the whole idea because a few things seem out of place. Just point me in the right direction and i'll fix it, no problem.

    ^ that's my contribution
     
  19. Oh So Shoddy

    Oh So Shoddy Devil's Advocate

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    So after sitting there for so **** long making pointers while going through your incredibly long code with its incredibly long list of roles, I turn around and close the stupid window w/o saving properly. Needless to say I was thoroughly annoyed. So let's see if we can get somewhere with this theme eh?

    First things I noticed:

    Your list of sides are confusing. I see come roles changing sides after conversion, like Frieza.

    Some of your sides don't have win messages

    Dragon Balls are like luigi, but with 0 vote. They're absolutely useless. Make them villagers.

    I see a lot of grammar issues

    You should try to explain the "info" for each role without listing it as "a godfather style role".

    Dabura is said to be "sided with majin mafia" and yet "side": "village"

    Regardless of how long Gogeta has to wait before reaching ultimate form, 6 is a bit too much for our games. Even 4 would be better.

    It seems there's some issue concerning Gogeta and Buu conversions. It's been a while since I watched the show so I'll have to take a look at the storyline before making a judgement.

    Good points:
    I actually Iike the progression for most of your characters. Some people seem to be against the numerous conversions however so you may want to tweak the roles so they either carry out their initial reaction or do nothing but convert on a nightly basis. This way there isn't excessive killing while powering up. This will also allow a bit of strategy as players try to bide their time to become more powerful.

    Stop arguing with each other and get this theme worked on. It's quite well known and has lots of potential, so don't get the idea shut down over silly issues.
     
  20. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    The gogeta thing wont show in anime, thats a thing that we decided to put on. Since he is OP, we decided to make it 6 nights. A guy with 6 daykills that evades NKs... Dabura thing can be easily solved, as the dragon balls thing. We could give them a -1 vote to each one, but that was like Luigi and we wanted to do a different thing. There is no win msg because some of them are for small games and some of them are conspirators, sided with himself but wins with village... Maybe add winmsg to Bardock, since he can win alone or with Z warriors. The other issues, like spelling, side thing, etc. can be easily modified, so its not a problem. I spoke with Xerxes about that, and he said that the buu thing was REALLY annoying. Disscuss about that? lol. AND you say Frieza this, Frieza that while we have Cell, another converter. Idk if someone noticed him. I think they only see the bad things of the theme instead of looking for nice things... Actually, thats a review, but think A LITTLE how many time we took to make this ,and ,its sill not finished.
     
  21. Oh So Shoddy

    Oh So Shoddy Devil's Advocate

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    Phrases like "can be easily solved" and "it's not a problem" aren't what we want to see. Try "OK it's been taken care of" or "alright what else needs fixing?" If you can take the criticism well then none of the reviewers will want to help you get this theme approved.

    Also, you said it yourself. It's a review. We're expected to point out the faults so you can work on it and improve it. What good would telling you only the good points be?

    Try working on your theme in #Project Mafia or any of the other mafia help channels where you can get instant feedback to your ideas. As well as any necessary correction.
     
  22. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Well, I found some errors that I dont know how to fix. Ill let Xerxes work on this. Also, there wasnt any Frieza side change, they were all the same.
     
  23. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I think Oh was talking about how there is a frieza for the hell side and a frieza for the galactic side. I am not sure though. With that being said, why are there multiple friezas on different sides, same with cell. I know you are trying to stay with the story but you don't see two friezas in the series at the same time.
     
  24. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Hell thing is for small games only. If you could look, they dont have transforms and they appear only in the roles1 section.
     
  25. Zzyzx Road

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    I have a suggestion - the theme has changed a lot from its submitted version to the current without getting any reviews without code corrections. The theme evolved pretty well through time and so it's pretty different, almost a new theme. This thread has gone too long in bla-bla, you could ask for a lock and try posting again after a few more fixes.
     
  26. XxkakapaxX

    XxkakapaxX I'm back.

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    Sure. That sounds pretty good. Ill ask Xerxes if he agrees.
     
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