[OC] [Beginner] Golden Sun Mafia - End: Won by Town of Prox

Discussion in 'Forum Games' started by "Bad To The Bone" Balla, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    Bs. Village is dying left and right.
     
  2. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    Guys, this is B(lis)S. You didn't PM the confirmed good guys. And because of it, we don't stand a chance. I admit defeat, we lost this. It's GG. We lost. No hope.

    Oh wise one, if only you were a God of Time, you would be able to rewind everything and make things right, but alas...
     
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  3. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    kso we ded,

    AND I KNEW CHEEZEBURGAR WAS FAKECLAIMING, if he was real pl he would say the whole thing :/.
     
  4. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    *Dances for joy*
    I am sided with myself anyway, I doubt I had a good chance of winning
     
  5. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    Braveswin, by that logic Bliss would be a bad guy too. :(
    Cheeze, you deserve some kudos for picking the PL as your rand from a group of 15ish other players. Congratulations on losing the game too. ;)
     
  6. two sides of one coin

    two sides of one coin sick of all her shit

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    Because you're totally going to win, and the Town of Prox aren't :D
     
  7. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    Marcello. has been subbed in for Antarticuno
     
  8. Marcello.

    Marcello. Ethereal Horizon

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    I just want to point out why you guys are losing this game. You inferred claiming as cleaning. Wrong. They are entirely different. All it takes is for the Mafia to have an inspecting role, or a reasonable level of intelligence, and they should be able to fake a reasonable role PM (they could have even just used one of the Villager role PM and added a different name). Trosh underlined this perfectly for me, calling (I'm assuming) himself and Salva "confirmed good guys". Unless they have been inspected by an Inspector, they are not clean, and even if they have been inspected, they may well simply be mole roles.

    Can someone with access to the spreadsheet (I am hoping you guys made one) please add me to it and PM me the link?
     
  9. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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  10. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    There were two deaths during the night.

    LadyHoliday was burned by some sort of fire, but the burns seemed odd. She was:

    XerxesBreak was frozen beyond saving. He was:

    Salvapot was kidnapped, he is unable to post in the thread.

    Jalmont wil do the rest of the updates as i am going away, refer all questions to him, 48 hours etc.
     
  11. Marcello.

    Marcello. Ethereal Horizon

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    Lynch Cheezeburgar.

    Admitted to being Solo role, and as thus is getting voted.

    I am taking control of the Village by the way. My role PM is as follows;

    I have constructed a Spreadsheet, and I need claims from the following players:

    Braveswin11
    Expert Belt Latios
    Xinc
    Trademark
    Trosh
    Nicehat
    ThatIsWhatSheSaid
    Darkcrimson

    Should you not PM me, you will be considered suspect and will become a possible lynch target.
     
  12. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    Marcello, I didn't *underline* anything perfectly. It's not safe to assume people who PM'd are clean, however, it IS safe to assume people who don't pm aren't a PR because, well, you ASKED THE PRS TO PM MULTIPLE TIMES.
    You are, in fact, NOT going to get my PM because you didn't PM before. I lead the village now that Salvapot is out, and we need to keep Cheez alive to even stand a chance at winning. You are NOT leading the village, at least, not without any real reasoning.

    But I don't see why I should make hasty conclusions... Let's just see how this day develops.
     
  13. Marcello.

    Marcello. Ethereal Horizon

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    How can I have PMed before. I was added to the game last Night. I had absolutely no opportunity to PM you before I A) PMed SalvaPot during Night 3, and B) Literally just revealed my role.

    Guys, I think we found our mole! (Or at least the reason we're losing so miserably). Trosh, read the damned thread.

    Edit: To point out, the mole accusation isn't in any way serious and I don't want anyone attempting lynches based on it. I'm just frustrated that Trosh didn't read.
     
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  14. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    It seems like one of my posts is gone...? Anyway, Lynch Cheezburgar.
     
  15. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    Yeah, Marcello. was just added soooooooooo,

    Lynch Cheezeburgar
     
  16. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    Killed XerxesBreak, AKA Prox mem AKA bad guy. GL town, you desperately need it.
     
  17. ThatIsWhatSheSaid

    ThatIsWhatSheSaid seasoned vet

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    Lynch Cheezeburgar
     
  18. Jalmont

    Jalmont nothere

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    I need a sub, PM if interested.

    I'll update later tonight hopefully.
     
  19. Expert Belt Latios

    Expert Belt Latios Member

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    Lynch Cheezeburgar
     
  20. Jalmont

    Jalmont nothere

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    reallyreallylateline

    Cheezeburgar was lynched. He was:
    48 hours send PMs to the one and only jalmont
     
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  21. Marcello.

    Marcello. Ethereal Horizon

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    We've got this now.
     
  22. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    Ok!

    There was one death during the night. It was Marcello. who was burnt to a crisp, with that same, strange fire. He was:

    It is now the day. :)
     
  23. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    BS another hero died.
     
  24. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    Well since we are going to lose, and I don't even know if there are more heroes than prox.

    I will claim :D

    Dear Braveswin11,
    You are Babi.
    You are the long serving ruler of the city of Tolbi, and have ruled the city for over 100 years. You traveled to the city of Lemuria when you were younger and you have a Lemurian longevity drought in your possession.

    You have no commands during the night, but you are unable to be killed because you have a drought that keeps you alive and the invisibility orb to evade others.

    You are aligned with the Heroes of Vale, you will win if all other factions are dead.[/HIDE]

    I have some pr's, but let's rand :D.

    Lynch Expert Belt Latios

    NEW LYNCH IN OTHER POST!
     
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  25. Marcello.

    Marcello. Ethereal Horizon

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    Sorry for dead-talking, but if you guys manage to lose this I will not be pleased. I'm pretty sure I set enough in place before my death for you to win this.
     
  26. Nicehat

    Nicehat PO client damage calc: preview.tinyurl.com/o8e7hss

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    Just posting to say that Braveswin11's claim is really suspicious, and could possibly have disastrous results for Town if he's lying.

    Not because I think he's necessarily sided against the village, but if he is and we let that claim slide, we're essentially handing him a free win since he'll be able to hide behind that claim and still be able to justify why he never dies even though he's claimed publicly already. Not only that, but if he was that role, if he stayed silent or claimed something else, he might have had the opportunity to negate a mafia kill, so claiming immunity to night kills publicly is suspicious.

    Now, if Braveswin11's claim is legitimate, then that role should be an easy autowin for Town, since he'll be able to unite everyone and there won't be any chance of the mafia being able to kill him. Of course, that itself also makes his claim a bit suspicious; especially considering just how strong his role is, why didn't he claim to lead the village in d1 or n2? If his role was really that, then we'd have an immortal village leader and the rest of the game would have been a cakewalk.

    In conclusion, (tl;dr version) I feel that Braveswin11's claim deserves extreme suspicion, and I feel that if he is Mafia and we let his claim slide, it'll be literally impossible for village to win. I also feel that considering how powerful his role is, when considering the rest of the setup, I feel like if the setup was adequately balanced I can't see Town having that on top of all of the other power roles that have already been revealed.

    I'm posting this in the thread because I feel like it's something that everyone has to consider when thinking about Braveswin11, and because if we overlooked this, we could possibly be handing the mafia a free win. I'd also like to hear Salvapot's thoughts on this subject; since he's led the town for a while, I would value his insight considering he is probably the most informed player at the moment, and I honestly believe that he is definitely sided with Town.

    PS:
    >_______________________________>
     
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  27. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    { Originally Posted by Marcello.
    { Originally Posted by Vintage Books
    you found darkcrimsons role PM

    Dear Darkcrimson,
    You are Agatio.
    A Mars Adept from Prox. You left Prox on a mission to make sure that the Lighthouses do not fail to be lit, and to make sure Felix holds his end of the deal. You travel with your partner Karst.

    During the night you may send a PM to Vintage Books and Jalmont entitled “Night X - use stun muscle to protect <user>”, you will cast the psynergy stun muscle on anyone trying to kill <user>, and they will be unable to be killed during the night.

    You are aligned with the Town of Prox, you will win if all other factions are dead.
    }

    Marcello. Comments: Proof I am inspector. I am going to blackmail Darkcrimson into Bodyguarding me with this until we have identified the Solo roles. If I die, and only if I die, post this in the thread. I do not want this posted until I die.
    }

    ---
    I had contacts with marcello before he died. So here's the info he got. That said, Lynch darkcrimson.
    Marcello ordered me to get Expert Belt Latios afterwards, so yeah. Braveswin was correct on who to get, but not on who to get FIRST.

    Now time for some responses:

    {
    I'm posting this in the thread because I feel like it's something that everyone has to consider when thinking about Braveswin11, and because if we overlooked this, we could possibly be handing the mafia a free win. I'd also like to hear Salvapot's thoughts on this subject; since he's led the town for a while, I would value his insight considering he is probably the most informed player at the moment, and I honestly believe that he is definitely sided with Town.
    }
    I am, afaik, the most informed. I have a list of all claims and their validity thanks to Marcello. the great gamesaver of epicness. Braveswin's claim is legit, again afaik, and since it's the info gathered by Marcello we better trust that.

    tl;dr: GET CRIMSON THEN LATIOS.
     
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  28. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    Lynch Chaospenguin

    No idea. What is going on.
     
  29. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    Xinc, I'll explain what's going on.

    When he joined, Marcello made a list of all players that joined and collected their roles. He also managed to nab the evil bg's role with his inspectish command, and tried to manipulate him into protecting him. That didn't work, so he told me that I should reveal the role PM in that case. He also told me, in case he died, to get Darkcrimson first and Latios second.

    He gave me access to the link with the info, and there might be others with the link but I don't know about that. Braveswin, being a good guy afaik, tried to lead a rand but apparently did not have that info. I did, and tried to correct the rand as I came online. And now we are here, lynching darkcrimson. The end.
     
  30. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    Kso, Trosh is correct !

    Lynch Darkcrimson

    ALSO XINC CHANGE~

    Well, ANOTHER NEW LYNCH.
     
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  31. Darkcrimson

    Darkcrimson New Member

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    Well i couldn't protect marcello because that role doesn't belong to me

    Dear Darkcrimson,
    You are Akafubu.

    A Mars adept, who resides in the town of Kibombo. You studied under the former witch doctor, Oeia, and after Oeia's death you succeeded her as the witch doctor of Kibombo. You sometimes have large mood swings, changing from kind and compassionate to aggressive and rash.

    Because of your unpredictable mood swings, if you are inspected, they will receive a random Role PM instead of this one. Also, with your mystical powers, you can take revenge even from beyond the grave. If you are killed, you will kill the person that killed you, while if you are lynched, you will kill the last person that voted you.

    You are aligned with the Heroes of Vale, you will win if all other factions are dead.[/HIDE]

    I was trying to lay low so the mafia would think i was a power and kill me and take one with me but it backfired and getting lynched atm. I suggest to lynch latios first unless u want to lose possibly two people that are with the Heroes if the last person that votes is town-sided aswell.
     
  32. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    Hm, well it seems to fit. You should have at least pm'd. :/

    Lynch Expert Belt Latios

    LGI
     
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  33. SalvaPot

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    Hmm, for some reason everyone wants my insight in this. Ok, for starters braveswin claimed his role to abdel in the 2nd night, and after that claimed that role to me, i shared that information with trosh, so right now I think the best person to follow at this moment is Trosh (Since he is the leader and all that)

    Anyway, who are we lynching first? the bg or the killer? I'll agree its better to get the killer, but its pretty much the same... So just to avoid a stealth-tie by the Proxies, I'll follow Troshi's rand:

    Lynch darkcrimson

    But I'll ask you troshi to consider who is best to lynch right now, dark or expert belt?
     
  34. Trosh

    Trosh Lolarising since 2011.

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    WE GET DARKCRIMSON, period. I see Darkcrimson decided to fake a role pm. No nonononono no. He's lying and the only confirmed bad guy we have. Isn't it a TAD suspicious that he didn't pm his role, but the role he has just happens to be one that helps him RIGHT NOW? Well played, darkcrimson, but no. You're dying.
     
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  35. ThatIsWhatSheSaid

    ThatIsWhatSheSaid seasoned vet

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    Lol obvious mafia ploy is obvious. Nice try Darkcrimson and braveswin.

    Lynch Darkcrimson

    COME @ ME BOMB IDGAF
     
  36. braveswin11

    braveswin11 I am back

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    Well, Trosh already knows I am a PR ;-;,

    If this is a PR, I blame trosh.

    Lynch Darkcrimson
     
  37. Nicehat

    Nicehat PO client damage calc: preview.tinyurl.com/o8e7hss

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    Lynch darkcrimson
     
  38. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    You decided to vote darkcrimson out and it was revealed he was:

    it is now night time, all actions in people!
     
  39. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    During the night 1 person died. It was trosh, burned by the strange flame.

    DAY! sorry im a shit host. ;_;
     
  40. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    o.O Mayor's dead