You seem to be very eager to lynch me, all without good reasons. I think here a mass-claim would help. Vintage and Nexus have already claimed (the best PRs left), and a mass-claim would most likely help the village now. We still have some time to discuss this.
Archer, take a long hard look at what you said now and what you said earlier. You tried to deter our attention from RJ onto IFM to shift the lynch, all while trying to redirect attention from yourself. Now you accuse IFM openly of doing the same thing while trying to imply he is scum? Really now? No doubt you are asking for massclaim so you can instantly throw down Vanillager claim and try to shift the suspicion.
I'm not trying to redirect attention from myself... I don't understand why everyone is keen on lynching me, when I have contributed more to the village than IFM. I understand why we are lynching RedJoker, and no doubt he should go tonight.
At this moment in time, the most immediate thing we have to deal with is RJs lynch. If one of the non-voters could hammer him, I'm sure it would be appreciated, given the fact that until we see his flip and the results of the next night, we are just going to talk in circles against Archer and IFM.
I am not saying who I am hitting of I survive discussing this makes it too easy for someone to idle and be assumed clean :x
*pulls out sword* Yeah this looks like being mafia but idc as well we now have a plan. Vote Rejoker25 BAM
I was thinking more in terms of pl than of you. Revealing what you are doing would be stupid. On the other hand we have the pl who you need to know what he is doing. If RJ flips mafia (not ww) then a pl of Archer would be smarter due to the fact that mafia would most likely be eliminated and if I was ww then Nexus would have died when he pld me last time.
And there ends the day phase. Me/VB surely get killed so depending on the result of our lynch, analyze them!
Redjoker25 has been lynched. Details will be edited into this post ASAP. Please stop posting. Edit: Votecount (at hammer): Redjoker25 (6): Jalmont, Marcello., Vintage Books, LordKX, Nexus Archerknight (1): IFM Not voting (3): Archerknight, RedJoker25, TheSexiOne
After a long day's work, everyone bands together to lynch RedJoker25. Post-mortem, he was identified as Llednar Twem (Mafia 1-Shot Strongman). With that, Night 4 has begun. The night phase will end around 8 PM EST on Monday, September 17th. edit: If all PMs get in by Sunday I'll consider ending the night phase earlier though. edit2: Night will end on Monday. Finally, a friendly reminder that posting in the game thread during the night phase is prohibited.
As dawn rises, the town finds only one body; Archerknight's body lies on the ground, motionless. Archerknight was revealed to be, in fact, Queen Meredi (Mafia Role Cop). With the final boss defeated, Clan Nutsy had finally triumphed over the Palace. Marche was finally free to return, with his friends, to the real world from Ivalice. [video=youtube;TD_Hm-hB1Ls]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_Hm-hB1Ls[/video] Congratulations to the town, Clan Nutsy, for being victorious in Final Fantasy: Tactics Advance NOC Mafia! Post-game coming up ASAP, anyone can feel free to post now.
i rule GG to all villagers we r da best and to Nicehat for being a great host (with a really cool setup as well)
Mafia Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/NYNF9MPy6g899 ~ Role PMs: (note: modnotes were not part of the Role PM) Fegelein: Spoiler Fegelein, You are a Gadgeteer of Clan Nutsy! Use your powerful support abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Town Jack of All Trades. You have the following special abilities: Pandora: Each night, you may use one of the following abilities: Blue Screw: You may use Blue Screw by sending both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Blue Screw on ~Target~. You will learn your target's alignment. You may only use this ability once. Chroma Gem: You may use Chroma Gem by sending both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Chroma Gem on ~Target~. Your target's abilities will be blocked that night. You may only use this ability once. Yellow Spring: You may use Yellow Spring by sending both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Yellow Spring on ~Target~. Your target will be protected from one kill that night. You may only use this ability once. You will be informed whether a shot has been used up by daybreak. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive. Modnote: If a role with an X-shot ability is Roleblocked on the same night that they use their ability, they will lose that shot.[/HIDE] Jalmont: Spoiler Jalmont, You are an Assassin of Clan Nutsy! Use your deadly killing abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Town Vigilante. You have the following special abilities: Last Breath: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Last Breath on ~Target~. You will kill your target during the night. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Vintage Books: Spoiler Vintage Books, You are a Hunter of Clan Nutsy! Use your survivalist trapping abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Town Tracker. You have the following special abilities: Hunting: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Hunting on ~Target~. You will track that player during the night, and learn which players, if any, they targeted that night. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive. Modnote: If a player is both Roleblocked and Tracked, the Tracker will receive "No Result".[/HIDE] Hobbes2Xinc: Spoiler Hobbes2Xinc:, You are a Bishop of Clan Nutsy! Use your strength to achieve your goal of returning to the real world! You are a Town Alignment Cop. You have the following special abilities: Judge: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Judge on ~Target~. You will learn your target's alignment. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Nexus: Spoiler Nexus, You are a Time Mage of Clan Nutsy! Use your potent time magic to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Town Roleblocker. You have the following special abilities: Stop: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Stop on ~Target~. Your target's abilities will be blocked that night. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Jiggles: Spoiler Jiggles, You are a Paladin of Clan Nutsy! Use your deadly killing abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Town Doctor. You have the following special abilities: Cover: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Use Cover on ~Target~. You will protect your target from one kill during that night. You cannot target yourself. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] PokeworldBW: Spoiler PokeworldBW, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] IFM: Spoiler IFM, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Marcello: Spoiler Marcello, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Bebbz: Spoiler Bebbz, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] LordKX: Spoiler LordKX, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] fitzy: Spoiler fitzy, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] TheSexiOne: Spoiler TheSexiOne, You are a Recruit of Clan Nutsy! Use your limited abilities to help Marche in his goal to return to the real world! You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities. You win when all threats to Clan Nutsy have been eliminated and at least one Town-sided role is alive.[/HIDE] Meowmix: Spoiler Meowmix, You are Judgemaster Cid, leader of the Judges and father of Prince Mewt! Use your justice and laws to protect Prince Mewt and Ivalice and defeat Clan Nutsy! You are a Mafia 2-Shot Doctor. You have the following special abilities: Factional Abilities: - Each night, the mafia may choose one member to perform the factional night-kill by sending both Nicehat and Steeledges a PM with Night X - Sending ~Mafioso~ to kill ~Target~. The player performing the night-kill may still use any other abilities they possess that night. - In addition, as a member of the mafia, you may converse with your teammates at any time in, and only in, the Quicktopic link provided here: Mafia Quicktopic. Abate: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Using Abate on ~Target~. You will protect your target from one kill that night. You may only use this ability twice, and will be informed each time you use up a shot You win if at least one member of the Palace is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same). Modnote: If a role with an X-shot ability is Roleblocked on the same night that they use their ability, they will lose that shot.[/HIDE] Redjoker25: Spoiler Redjoker25, You are Llednar Twem, mysterious assassin of the Palace! Use your dangerous killing abilities to protect Prince Mewt and Ivalice and defeat Clan Nutsy! You are a Mafia 1-Shot Strongman. You have the following special abilities: Factional Abilities: - Each night, the mafia may choose one member to perform the factional night-kill by sending both Nicehat and Steeledges a PM with Night X - Sending ~Mafioso~ to kill ~Target~. The player performing the night-kill may still use any other abilities they possess that night. - In addition, as a member of the mafia, you may converse with your teammates at any time in, and only in, the Quicktopic link provided here: Mafia Quicktopic. Omega: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Using Omega. That night, nothing will be able to prevent the mafia nightkill from succeeding. You may only use this ability once. You will be informed when you have used up a shot. You win if at least one member of the Palace is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same). Modnote: Omega cannot be blocked.[/HIDE] Water: Spoiler Water, You are Babus Swain, caretaker of Prince Mewt and Runeseeker of the Palace! Use your powerful magic to protect Prince Mewt and Ivalice, and defeat Clan Nutsy! You are a Mafia Roleblocker. You have the following special abilities: Factional Abilities: - Each night, the mafia may choose one member to perform the factional night-kill by sending both Nicehat and Steeledges a PM with Night X - Sending ~Mafioso~ to kill ~Target~. The player performing the night-kill may still use any other abilities they possess that night. - In addition, as a member of the mafia, you may converse with your teammates at any time in, and only in, the Quicktopic link provided here: Mafia Quicktopic. Stillness: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Using Stillness on ~Target~. Your target's ability will be blocked that night. You win if at least one member of the Palace is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).[/HIDE] Archerknight: Spoiler Archerknight, You are Queen Meredi, the mother of Prince Mewt and ruler of Ivalice! Use your rulership to protect Prince Mewt and Ivalice, and defeat Clan Nutsy! You are a Mafia Role Cop. You have the following special abilities: Factional Abilities: - Each night, the mafia may choose one member to perform the factional night-kill by sending both Nicehat and Steeledges a PM with Night X - Sending ~Mafioso~ to kill ~Target~. The player performing the night-kill may still use any other abilities they possess that night. - In addition, as a member of the mafia, you may converse with your teammates at any time in, and only in, the Quicktopic link provided here: Mafia Quicktopic. Amber Gleam: Each night, you may send both Nicehat and SteelEdges a PM with Night X - Using Amber Gleam on ~Target~. You will learn that player's role and role name. You win if at least one member of the Palace is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).[/HIDE]
Night Actions Night 1: Water blocks Fegelein (succeeds). Nexus blocks IFM (succeeds). Jiggles protects Jalmont (succeeds). Fegelein protects Jalmont (succeeds, uses a shot). Mafia sends Archerknight to kill Jiggles (succeeds). Jalmont kills Water (succeeds). Archerknight investigates IFM (succeeds, gets "Recruit"). Xinc investigates Meowmix (succeeds, gets "The Palace"). Vintage Books tracks LordKX (succeeds, gets "did not target anyone"). Night 2: Nexus blocks Meowmix (succeeds). Fegelein blocks Jalmont (succeeds, uses a shot). Mafia sends Archerknight to kill Fegelein (succeeds). Meowmix protects himself (fails, uses a shot). Jalmont kills Meowmix (fails). Archerknight investigates Marcello. (succeeds, gets "Recruit"). Vintage Books tracks Jalmont (succeeds, gets "did not target anyone"). Night 3: Nexus blocks IFM (succeeds). Mafia sends Redjoker25 to kill Bebbz (succeeds). Archerknight investigates fitzy (succeeds, gets "Recruit"). Vintage Books tracks fitzy (succeeds, gets "did not target anyone"). Night 4: Nexus blocks Archerknight (succeeds). Mafia sends Archerknight to kill Nexus (fails). Archerknight investigates Nexus (fails). Jalmont kills Archerknight (succeeds).
A short questionnaire that it'd be kind of cool if you answered! (but obviously you don't have to) Questionnaire: Spoiler How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game?[/HIDE] ~ Comment about Day 1 play: Spoiler To be honest, I think one reason why Day 1 was so difficult was because everyone kept calling their votes prods. The consequences of prodding people rather than trying to lynch them are that 1) you distance your opinion from your vote, meaning it's far more difficult to get a read on you one way or the other, and 2) it sends a clear signal that you don't actually intend to lynch that person, which means that any pressure your vote might have had vanishes. The latter becomes especially clear when the person you "prod" posts a filler post full of nothing and you unvote solely because they made a post. Especially in NOC, vote analysis is a useful tool for either sparking discussion or finding mafia, and when most votes aren't because the voter personally thinks that that person is mafia, vote analysis (and partially by extension, thread analysis) just becomes meaningless. Instead of continually prodding inactive people, it would be more useful to just vote people who you actually think are suspicious, and explain why. There's a clear difference between "prodding someone who's inactive" and "nominating someone for a lynch (by voting them) because their lack of activity (or lack of contribution to the thread, or lurking, etc.) seems suspicious". The only reason a vote means anything is because it represents your desire to lynch that person. Once your vote is being placed for a reason other than that, it loses its weight.[/HIDE] Feel free to ask me anything (either in the thread or by PM) if you're curious about anything.
How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? Went well, but I think the night deadlines were fine at 24 hours. Otherwise, I felt it was well made + well hosted. Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? Yes, but I know most of them already as I've played NOC before. Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? I never died, but I think it would be a good idea. The main problem would be whether or not people would maintain interest. Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? I started out trying to unite the village, knowing that there were few, if any players with NOC experience. After the Bg died, I played more reservedly, in order to try and avoid being nightkilled. I made a little quip hinting that I might've been BPV, but I don't think the mafia picked up on it. After that I tried to stay low, until the game was ready to be won. What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? Fresh gametype, that makes for a nice change from regular mafia. Yes. Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game? I would be interested in doing both, but only if nobody else wants to do it!
Questionnaire: Spoiler How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game?[/HIDE] 1. I feel that the game went very well. Hosting was on time, and throughout things where interesting. My only complaint would be that the vigi seemed to have higher priority than the mafia, and that the longish day phases combined with the large amount of village PRs might have given the village to much of an edge. Other than those two things though, the game was very enjoyable. 2. I read through all the rules in the sign-up threat, and went back to check them on a number of occasions. 3. Yes. I think it would be interesting to talk with people about the game, and give you a way to continue expressing your thoughts on the game after death. 4. I believed that I didn't have anything to hide, and so just posted when I had thoughts on something. This led to a few of my posts not making much sense or incriminating me, but I figured it was better to look flawed but honest than overly cautious about posting. 5. It was very enjoyable, and I liked that you had to think much more about other people. If there was another one, I think I would most likely join it. 6. No. I have far to many ideas for other types of games that I want to try out.
Good game ^_^ It's my first NOC and i think i did pretty well using 2 crucial commands. My analysis on the Village incfluencing players: Mafia team in general: You played really well in general. It was pretty hard to guess you out form your posting habits or anything. It is kinda some luck that we got you. Kudos to Archerknight for really blending in though Vintage Books: Excellently timed claim, couldn't have come at a better time. You pretty much set the game up for us. Jalmont: You could have given a defence but still well played, you lead the village and timely kill of Archer. Marcello: Though we had some issues, you played really well and set the game up for us. If i was Mafia I would have killed you first since you directed the whole village. Best player (imo): Archerknight Also question to all? What would you have done if you were Mafia? I would have probably killed Jalmont and Marcello since they did most of the analyzing stuff and lead the village
Yay I was using my one and only protect on a good guy at least... :< Anyway questionnaire below~ Spoiler How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? imo the game was modded well, and to your best ability! I enjoyed the diverse roles you came up with, something not very common in NOC games, most of those I read where bland standard Cop/Doctor/Vanillagers and the mafia+ww. and the only one I read with a sorta interesting set up was screwed up anyway! Nice to see a change in that! :3 Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? XD yes but I sorta forgot about the no 'bah' posts one cough. Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? lol yes I wanted to say so much and yet I couldn't X3 I was pretty interested even after I died N1! Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? Well it was my first NOC and I tried to act clean because I was a BG I didn't even have a clue on how I was supposed to act lol. I figured being too liberal would get me on the radar of the mafia and I didn't want that to happen. Not posting a lot would make me scummy too! Eventually I think I managed to settle down on a style of pointing out flaws (and lots of prodding lol) X3 Well at least the Mafias thought I was clean right. What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? NOC is a fresh take on Mafia to me imo. Makes you think harder about the posts people make and the posts you yourself make, especially since you can't edit what you post. Claiming is also make much harder which makes it more fun imo. and yeah I wouldn't mind playing another one~ Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game? Hosting, no XD. I really can't see myself being able to host an NOC, considering you would have to be around to swiftly end the lynch once hammer was made + you probably have to be ready for incoming modkills and such. Co-hosting I wouldn't mind though! [/HIDE]
Good Game everyone, and thanks Nexus for your kind words! I admired you calling out jalmont, I probably would have been a bit scared to be the first person to do that.
How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? I felt the game ran exceptionally smoothly. There were no major instances which held up the flow of the game (although I personally think Xinc being godkilled when he should have would've ruined the pace of the game). As far as suggestions go, I felt the Mafia were a bit disadvantaged, although I personally think this just promoted the need for them to analyse posts as well in order to deduce the best targets. Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? I did, and if I'm to be entirely honest the only reason I had any idea how to go about playing this game was because I read some of the example games on Smogon. Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? Again, I didn't die, but this is a brilliant idea. One of the most frustrating things about this style of game is no doubt that, once you die, you're entirely unable to discuss the goings on in the game. A QuickTopic for dead people gives them the opportunity to speculate on who they think is scum or not. Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? I started off playing aggressively because I wanted to be heavily involved in the game and I realised that, as a villager, it made quite a bit of sense for me to be one of the biggest driving forces of discussion for the village, as losing me wouldn't affect the chance of winning too greatly. However, I quickly realised what I started was a bit of a double-edged sword, given the fact that if I deviated from my aggressive style of play I would almost certainly be deemed suspicious. What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? NOC was a new experience for me, and one I found myself enjoying immensely. I felt a lot of the Mafia games on the forums were beginning to deviate from "Standard" Mafia to resemble the Server Mafia themes too much with their role make up, and this was disappointing me somewhat. NOC fixed that entirely, and brought the game down to it's most basic set up. I also felt the emphasis on analysis was refreshing, especially given it meant I had to actually think through my posts. I would definitely play another NOC game again. Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game? I honestly don't think I have enough experience with Mafia in general to be able to host a game effectively, and I doubt I'll have enough free time to host one.
gg all, jalmont basically won the entire game for you guys so I don't see how anybody can give best player to anyone else. How did you feel the game went? Do you have any complaints/suggestions/comments about how the game was run? The game went fine, I guess. Still kinda pissed that I was out of it so quickly. The long deadlines that became a lack of deadlines hurt us (us being mafia) as a whole, since it gave the village a lot of time to work with and figure out good lynch targets, but considering how the village played D1 and D2 it may have been necessary. The village itself was also like, really strong in terms of power roles. I know insp and bg are a given, but a PL, a watcher and a vigi that apparently had priority over us made it hard for, even with perfect play. I know we had a bg/roleblocker/insp of our own, but we were a bit underpowered. Honestly, did you read through the entire list of rules in the signups thread or in the game thread? n Would you have liked to have a private QuickTopic where dead people could discuss the game (with other dead people)? omg yes, it was terribly frustrating to not be able to talk to anybody about how things were progressing Why did you play the way you did, in the day phase and/or in the night phase? As mafia, I felt as though being active and outgoing with my posts was the best way to blend into the village. This worked perfectly to a point, as besides Marcello and maybe KX, I was the cleanest person in the village up until the whole debacle with Xinc (and honest to god I still don't understand why he inspected me). After his godkill and I was revealed, I tried to throw blame onto other people, but it actually ended up backfiring and cleaning a couple of people who could have been considered scum. As for the night phase, I generally left the killing up to the others and was really hesitant to use my BG shots up, which ended up causing us to lose our roleblocker N1. What do you think of NOC? Would you play another NOC game in the near future? it's probably the best type of mafia, and yes I would play one and am actually in another one on smogon right now. Would you be interested in hosting or co-hosting an NOC mafia game? I was actually gonna host an NOC but then I saw you were hosting one so I said fuck it, might host one in a couple of months though
Oh, I never posted in the endgame. Well, all I have to say is you guys suck for lynching me the one day I was too busy to come online and check the forums.
yeah in retrospect I can't believe you guys trusted jalmont for the entire game after his d1 fuckup YOU'RE ALL SHEEP