[BW2] Blaziken

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Ubers' started by szeweningen, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. szeweningen

    szeweningen Member

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    Hello,

    I haven't played ubers yet and I'm in the team development phase. I am trying to make a sun team based on Groudon/Specs Reshiram/Blaziken combo. Anyway I looked at usage stats for Blaziken and my set isn't even in top 100 or so... Anyway since I know only OU or UU metagame, I'd like to ask you guys for an advice before finishing the team and going into testing phase. So here's the set for Blaziken:

    Blaziken (F) @ Fire Gem
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Protect
    - Flare Blitz
    - Swords Dance

    As you can see it is the standard set with Hi jump Kick removed. I saw no sets in usage stats with batton pass, which seems pretty weird to me. Anyway my idea for the team and this set is pretty simple, I want to use Blaziken as a much more powerful version of Ninjask and help Reshiram sweep under sun. Basically I want 4 things:
    1) eliminate opposing Kyogre
    2) set up the sun afterwards
    3) switch into Blaziken and user Flare Blitz (possibly live one hit or hit anything on the switch), next turn protect (focus sash is also possible instead of fire gem or LO)
    4) pass to reshiram (modest choice specs, max speed)

    Anyway since speed boost is very good for passing I wonder why are there almost no teams with BattonPass Blaziken. Other pokes are Forretress, LO Extremekiller and Banded Kyurem-B, so Blaziken could also get an SD up and +2 speed for them. So, do you guys think that team could survive in the Ubers metagame? I just suspect there is some reason why no one uses BatonPass on Blaziken, but I don't see it having no experience there...
     
  2. Zerowaltz

    Zerowaltz Member

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    Since this is a mainly Baton Passing set, I'd suggest putting some attack EVs into defense or special defense, but blaziken won't be surviving many attacks anyway, so focus sash is viable (if rocks aren't up).
     
  3. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    I wouldn't recommend having Reshiram as the Baton Pass receiver. Reshiram is a special attacker (I tried a mixed set once, it really didn't work), and can boost Speed on its own with Flame Charge. Since Blaziken is passing boosts to Speed and Attack. I think Zekrom or Groudon would be better receivers, since they have better physical Attack and would greatly appreciate the extra speed. I'd also suggest removing the Fire Gem and replacing it with a Focus Sash - that way, (if no hazards are in play, or you play Blaziken first) you're much more likely to get a Swords Dance in. If you're using Blaziken as a Baton Passer, I'd suggest the following set.

    Blaziken @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Speed Boost
    Nature: Jolly (+Spd -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Protect
    Baton Pass
    Blaze Kick (so it doesn't break the Sash with recoil)
     
  4. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    ...Wasn't Baton Pass a breeding move and Speed Boost a DW ability? It was illegal befor BW2. Not sure if that has changed...
     
  5. Micaiah

    Micaiah Bop it

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    Blaziken can't have baton pass with speed boost yet
     
  6. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    It can in No Preview Ubers.
     
  7. Wobbyble

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    There's a ton of Dragon tail users in Ubers, this set wouldnt work too well imho. Try Subsitute passing with possibly Bulk Up.
     
  8. PwnageBureau

    PwnageBureau New Member

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    BLAZIKEN ACTUALLY WORKS FINE IN UBERS. JUST GIVE IT FOCUS SASH AND SWEEP USING YOUR SWORDS DANCE SET. :)
     
  9. twofivefive

    twofivefive don't call it a comeback

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    http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/breed.shtml
    I'm not sure if this means BP Blaziken will be legal in the future, but it looks promising?

    @PwnageBureau Blaziken generally uses Flare Blitz, so having a Focus Sash is pretty useless. The 3 main options are Leftovers, Life Orb, or the Normal resist berry (can't remember what it's called but it helps vs Extremekiller Arceus)
     
  10. Arceus

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    I would never use Leftovers on Blaziken. It is too fragile to make good use of it. Honestly, I feel that Life Orb is the best choice since it racks up the most damage and the extra power helps in Ubers. Chilan Berry is the berry that reduces normal type damage one time.