[Skeleton] Deoxys-A

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  1. Mattstah

    Mattstah Emotional Sickness

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    ==General==
    * Highest attacking stats in the game, at 180 each
    * Tied for third best Speed stat at 150 with Deoxys-N, behind Deoxys-S and Ninjask
    * Amazing movepool, including Extremespeed for priority
    * Extremely frail, the especially hard hits in Ubers will be OHKOs

    ==Set 1(Focus Sash)==
    Deoxys-A @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Rash Nature (+SAtk, -Def) / Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Psycho Boost
    - Shadow Ball / Thunder
    - Superpower

    Set Comments
    * Focus Sash gives Deoxys-A an extra turn to inflict damage
    * Psycho Boost, Deoxys' signature move, has a base power of 140 and gets STAB
    * Superpower is also an extremely powerful move, and hits Dark or Steel types who are immune to or resist Psycho Boost
    * Shadow Ball nails the Psychic types, namely Deoxys-S and Mewtwo, but if you have rain on your side, you could use Thunder, which can destroy Kyogre and hit neutral on many things
    * Extremespeed takes out weakened Pokemon and can hit Choice Scarfed Pokemon or other priority users
    * Rapid Spin support is recommended so hazards don't break the sash
    * Rash nature can be used for more power, but opting for more Speed can prove to be life saving, as you can now speed tie with other Deoxys-A

    ==Set 2(Life Orb)==:
    Deoxys-A @ Life Orb
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) / Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
    - Thunder / Extremespeed
    - Psycho Boost
    - Superpower
    - Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Fire]

    Set Comments
    * Life Orb gives a big increase in attack power
    * Moves are similar to the first set, Hidden Power [Fire] gives leverage against Ferrothorn; Superpower will not OHKO
    * If using Thunder, rain is recommended but not Hidden Power [Fire]
    * Extremespeed takes out weakened Pokemon and can hit Choice Scarfed Pokemon or other priority users
    * Substitute is a viable option to use on a predicted switch; this gives a buffer on Deoxys-A's horrible defenses, and if Sub+LO seems unappealing, you can opt for a coverage based item such as Expert Belt
    * With Deoxys-A's wide range of options, the moves can be altered to fit your team's needs
    * Priority is now extremely dangerous as it will automatically knock you out; you can get rid of those users beforehand with Giratina for Arceus, Dialga/Palkia for Giratina-O


    ==Checks & Counters==
    * Deoxys-A does not have a hard counter, but many checks because of its frailty
    * As mentioned many times before, priority completely demolishes Deoxys-A
    * Giratina-O's Shadow Sneak will OHKO and can survive an Ice Beam to land two Shadow Sneaks (one to break Sash)
    * Similarly, Arceus' Extremespeed will beat Deoxys, while surviving Superpower
    * Choice Scarfers can beat Deoxys-A, namely Palkia, Jirachi, Darkrai, and Terrakion
    * Base 90s that are neutral must beware; they can be outsped by Deoxys-A

    ==Other Options==
    * Deoxys-A has an extensive movepool that includes Grass Knot, Focus Blast, Low Kick, Thunderbolt, and Psyshock, most of which are outclassed by other moves
    * Choice items are not recommended, as Deoxys-A likes to switch between moves and not switch out; because of its defenses, it will have to come in to revenge kill and cannot switch in on an attack
    * Can run hazards, but the job is usually left to Deoxys-S
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2012
  2. T-Dogg

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    Focus Sash:
    - Remove Ice Beam from the slashes, the Pokemon it hits are either hit harder by Thunder or frail enough to get donked by Psycho Boost.
    - In the comments you need to mention the uses of Shadow Ball and Thunder, as well as the pros and cons of the different natures.

    Life Orb:
    - Swap Ice Beam for Shadow Ball.
    - Slash Extremespeed in with Thunder.
    - "Rain is recommended, as Thunder will achieve neutral coverage on many Ubers"; Not true if you are using HP Fire.

    I can't see anything else to add atm, so make those changes and you'll be QC Approved [1/3]


    One thing I'd like the rest of QC's input on is combining this into one set. It'd look something like this:

    ==Set 1==
    Deoxys-A @ Life Orb / Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) / Rash Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - ExtremeSpeed / Thunder
    - Psycho Boost
    - Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Superpower

    Easy enough to talk about the pros and cons of each item and move in a single set.
     
  3. Mattstah

    Mattstah Emotional Sickness

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    Changes made, awaiting QC on your idea of having just one set
     
  4. Luck>Skill

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    Yeah seems good to me, although

    Then why mention it? Just remove that part, in the OO about support moves I'd just mention SR / Spikes. Also, I'd keep the 2 sets separated and mention Substitute on the LO set. You don't need the HPs since you die in 1 hit from anything anyway, and you force switches so that's an option. If sub + LO isn't appealing you can run another boosting item such as Expert Belt.
     
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    Alfalfa Underappreciated

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    I would like to take over this analysis. Does anyone mind?
     
  6. Spoovo The Pirate

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    It's likely fine. 3 months of inactivity would suggest that the OP has no real intentions of finishing.
     
  7. Dr. Fuji

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    Especially because it has been 15 months not 3. Go right ahead.
     
  8. Spoovo The Pirate

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    Whoa, crap yeah. Missed the year completely lol. xD