[BW2] BW Kyurem base states

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Ubers' started by Sasha The Legend !, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. Vincent R.

    Vincent R. New Member

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    Ice STAB is an advantage too, isn't?

    I mean, a bulky Grass or Ground Arceus could survive a Draco Meteor from this beast, couldn't?

    There are some situations Ice Beam is just better, both for super effective damage and for 100% accuracy.
     
  2. チャンピオンワタル

    チャンピオンワタル HYPER BEAM!

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    Even with Team Preview, one can still arrange their team such that Kyurem-W is at the front, which can be effective considering its Choice Specs set beats a large number of Pokémon commonly found in the tier one-on-one. In fact, with Wifi Clause, Kyurem-W is arguably even better, as Team Preview eases prediction for its trainer, who knows exactly what Pokémon the opponent's team contains, and therefore the options from which they can choose for predicting is narrowed down based on only the Pokémon found in the opponent's team. Also, I think it's obvious that Sheetanshu didn't switch to Ferrothorn because 1. he did not know that my Kyurem-W held Choice Specs, and therefore thought he could survive a hit before retaliating with his own Draco Meteor for the KO, and 2. he was afraid of Fusion Flare. And as evident from his position on the old DW Ubers ladder, he is an incredibly skilled trainer, who probably had many good reasons for each of the moves he chose in that battle, but I just didn't play the way he had anticipated me to, making many of his moves seem like misplays. Basically, you could say that he overpredicted me, or I outpredicted him.

    In the situation in my battle against Sheetanshu, you are right. But now that Multiscale is released, you still cannot argue against the fact that Kyurem-W is overall much better at taking down Lugia than Palkia could possibly hope to, since the rain isn't going to be up all the time. And even if it is raining, Multiscale Lugia can easily switch into a non-Choice Specs Thunder (if Palkia has Choice Specs, many Pokémon can easily wall it while it's locked into Thunder), take another Thunder or a Hydro Pump before paralyzing Palkia with Thunder Wave, before proceeding to use Roost repeatedly until it gets back to full health, since Palkia will be fully paralyzed eventually. But Lugia is flat-out not a viable switch-in to Kyurem-W regardless of the situation, as it gets cleanly taken down by two Ice Beams no matter what.

    The battle demonstrates many of Kyurem-W's advantages over Palkia nonetheless.

    Already addressed.

    And I already stated that Palkia is probably more useful overall. "White Kyurem is a worse Palkia", something you said in an earlier post in this thread, means that Palkia completely outclasses Kyurem-W. As in, there is never a team or situation containing Kyurem-W in which it would not be more beneficial to use Palkia instead. That is the only point I have been arguing against all this time.
     
  3. Donkey

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    I lol'd a bit. Sure, Kyurem-W has better bulk HP wise, but it has terrible typing both offensively and defensively. Have fun using Kyurem-W's "bulk" to wall Specs Ogre. Typing has to be considered whenever talking about bulk, and Ice provides no good resistances. Kyurem's bulk is basically useless against a team with Stealth Rock and a few hard hitters. It still gets crushed by dragon attacks, rock attacks, etc.
     
  4. pokeboss9

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    I agree with Manaphy and Donkey.

    Actually im a bit disappointed by the 2 Kyruem forms, they are too similar to each other and add nothing new to ubers. The best you can do with them is giving a Choice item and you are done.
    Terrible typing, horrible movepool, they will be never top in ubers in this Gen, maybe Gen 6 will make them broken.
     
  5. .Rawr!

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    ^ I agree with pokeboss9 said (so what Manaphy and Donkey said too.)