OK, a recent thread was deleted for leaking moderation guidelines...that makes no sense. It makes sense for them to be known. Users should be known under what guidelines they are being moderating. Also, we think users should know what it is expected from a mod, so that they can recognise when a member of authority is commiting abuse against them. Feel free to disagree, its just an opinion. If we delete threads for stating opinons then...wow.
So, I lost my auth for kicking from /A CHANNEL OF WHICH I'M AN OWNER/ permanently. Eternal before banned an user for the same issue, lost auth FOR A WEEK, and then got admins back. Now he banned a MOD just because the MOD knew HOW TO DEAL with spammers, something Eternal clearly DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO, and he's still admin? Dear Eternal, people like Amarillo Caballero have been on PO for long enough to know HOW TO deal with spammers. Slencing the chat is something you should do in EXTREME cases, not only for a simple attack by Skarmpiss/Doj/Conflict. Silencing the chat is exactly what those people want to achieve. There is an admin command you SHOULD HAVE used to mute conflict, but I assume you weren't aware of it. I've also read the logs of the old thread, and I must say the way you handled the situation is so wrong, on so many levels. First off, no one knows how you got mods. Well, we do, Elements clearly said it: (14:02:14) Elements: Hey, Eternal, how does Darkness' and coyotte's asses taste like? (14:02:20) Elements: you've been kissing them since Oak left It's the only possible explanation of HOW you got admins, seeing how: 1) You've never modded jack shit, let's be honest, you started becoming "active" around...6 or so months ago? I remember you, dear Eternal, it was....2 years ago? You were on, but always idling, without doing anything, just pleasing yourself with mods power you've never deserved, and now that you have admins, the history repeats itself. 2) Your "contribution" = copying ideas from Smogon, all you've done was rearranging them. 3) You are a terrible mod, regardless of what you think of yourself In short, you are the worst admin to have ever (dis)graced our community (and server). I received several PMs from users, but one stood out, in my opinion: xxx: help Luck>Skill: with? xxx: why are owners ruining the server??? What am I supposed to answer? That owners run this place without giving a single fuck about anyone, it's their little toy, they can play with it however they can? The previous thread deleted explains pretty clearly how this community is run, and it's just going to make things worse. Infract me for insulting, if you feel like, as I've already said, I don't want to get involved with this community anymore, it had a lot of potential, but our owners seems to not care at all about it.
Your other thread wasn't about giving your opinion, let's be honest it was about you badmouthing the admins and getting more people to join in. Maybe the admins have been abusing their powers, I wouldn't know but making threads like this just to bring the issue to public attention really isn't going to do any good for anybody.
The first thread would appear that way, yes. Another thread was made just a few hours ago which was nothing like the first, and merely asked for opinions. It got deleted.
I agree totally, The Auths at the server just abuse their power so much without really doing anything, I mean if you need to get anything done just kiss their asses and it's done. Well, it is at least much better than /tr/ yes the one Crystal used to run, They used to abuse their Power so much, especially against me and YanMiga, btw Crystal do you any logs from /tr/?? I wanna show some. But Really, Owners should try abusing their powers less, I don't want to be a member of a dictatorship.
http://pastebin.com/ShJvgNHf The first thread, that was deleted. And no, this is not an April fools joke. It wouldn't have been deleted if it was. Edit: so the idiot who gave this to me called shadowfist a faggot and just made me aware now, since I only quickly glanced over it. Just editing to say it's not mine.
I've not been in PO for long enough to say I know everything that was done more than half a year ago. However, I acknowledge everything that has been happening. I believe enough people recognize that some auth users - especially the owners and KE - have abused their power. "I'm the owner, everything here is there because of me, I can do whatever I want and if you want to keep some power you better kiss my feet" is a bad way to control somewhere like PO; loads of fellow players that don't give a shit are still there, but if any of them were involved - like I never was, as well - they'd have to deal with that hypocrisy so long as they were involved. I'm not an old player, nor do I know most of you from long date (and I'm pretty sure nobody that does not play Mafia remembers me) and I never wanted to get auth at any point because I knew stuff like that would happen. Now that I'm up-to-date with all the reasons for the leaving of a significant amount of old players in the last month, I think I'm leaving before I get (if I ever get) some responsibility around. People should think a bit of what they're doing before judging others, and if you're the one to put rules, you should follow them more strictly than ANYONE under them. Would you ever stay away from somewhere if someone that goes there everyday told you? The actions you take are the best way to tell others who you are. In somewhere like PO, where most people never saw you, you can fake EVERYTHING, but your personality will go through your speech. The greatest thing you must recognize in someone is their ability to realize they did something wrong, which, as we see, the "bosses" of the beta server lack horribly. I'm not staying against anyone or anything but the common sense, and after all I'm with the (not anymore) mods that got deauth for no just reason. It's not like politics or a nation - it's a community where the only point on having moderators is to avoid abuses, abuses that were done by the owners themselves. I retire.