Since I honestly think the Eternal fiasco needs a separate thread.

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  1. Serpentine

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    Indigo logs:
    (23:05:36) +Heather Star: Just stop silencing it
    (23:06:37) ±Dratini: Target: BFF Confl ict, IP: 216.47.220.227
    BFF Confl ict was banned by King Eternal!
    (23:07:11) Oh So Shoddy changed teams.
    (23:08:02) +King Eternal: Heather
    (23:08:05) +King Eternal: keep it silent
    (23:08:09) +King Eternal: better off like that
    (23:08:10) +Heather Star: Then
    (23:08:16) +Heather Star: Keep it
    (23:08:21) +Heather Star: But dont
    (23:08:26) +Heather Star: On and off it
    (23:08:39) +Heather Star: A long time or no time
    (23:08:46) +King Eternal: who turned it off?
    (23:08:49) +Ethan: Should I say something in the announcement about the silence, or do you think everybody is clear about why its silenced >_>
    (23:09:27) +Heather Star: (22:08:01) ±Chatot: King Eternal called for 60 Minutes Of Silence in Tohjo Falls!
    (23:09:27) +Heather Star: (22:08:11) +Oh So Shoddy: What are you doing?
    (23:09:27) +Heather Star: (22:08:12) +Oh So Shoddy: >_>
    (23:09:27) +Heather Star: (22:08:26) [PR]BLUES cancelled their challenge.
    (23:09:27) +Heather Star: (22:08:30) ±Dratini: Silence is over in Tohjo Falls.
    (23:09:36) +Heather Star: Obv its not working as it should
    (23:09:40) +King Eternal: hm
    (23:10:17) +Heather Star: I say just keep tempbanning
    (23:10:41) ±Chatot: Amarillo Caballero cancelled the Minutes of Silence in tohjofalls!
    (23:11:01) ±Blaziken: Crazy C onflict was kicked and muted for flood. [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (23:11:11) +King Eternal: why are you cancelling Amrillo
    (23:11:15) ±Chatot: Amarillo Caballero cancelled the Minutes of Silence in tohjofalls!
    King Eternal banned Amarillo Caballero!
    (23:11:26) +Serpentine: What the fuck
    (23:11:44) +Oh So Shoddy: Wtf are you doing eternal?
    (23:11:53) +King Eternal: keep it silent
    (23:12:02) +Oh So Shoddy: You acting a fucking fool right now
    (23:12:06) +Heather Star: Ok for that
    (23:12:12) +Heather Star: You are going to lose auth
    (23:12:18) +King Eternal: I asked to keep it silent
    (23:12:26) +King Eternal: the chat is at chaos
    (23:12:28) +Heather Star: At no point do you ban another auth member
    (23:12:30) +Serpentine: ETernal
    (23:12:33) +Serpentine: You're going fucking out of bounds
    (23:12:34) +[LD]Jirachier: wtf
    (23:12:35) +Oh So Shoddy: But why would you ban amarillo without saying anything?
    (23:12:39) +[LD]Jirachier: why did you ban Amarillo
    (23:12:40) +Ethan: ...
    (23:12:43) +King Eternal: I told him twice
    (23:12:47) +[LD]Jirachier: to do what
    (23:12:49) +Oh So Shoddy: Told him where?
    (23:12:49) +King Eternal: to not unsilence
    (23:12:52) +Serpentine: THIS IS THE SECOND GOD DAMNED TIME YOUVE BANNED AN AUTH MEMBER
    (23:12:55) +[LD]Jirachier: unsilence ?
    (23:12:56) +Oh So Shoddy: There's not hing here in Indigo
    (23:12:59) +[LD]Jirachier: what the fuck do you mean
    (23:13:03) +Heather Star: (22:12:53) ±Dratini: You unbanned Amarillo Caballero!
    (23:13:08) +Serpentine: Eternal's silencing tohjo
    (23:13:10) +Serpentine: Because of Conflict.
    (23:13:11) Player Crazy C onflict (IP 68.101.68.167) is being overactive.
    (23:13:12) +Oh So Shoddy: (23:11:21) ±Chatot: King Eternal called for 60 Minutes Of Silence in Tohjo Falls!
    (23:13:12) +Oh So Shoddy: (23:12:33) ±Dratini: Silence is over in Tohjo Falls.
    (23:13:13) +Heather Star: There is no way i am leetting that stand
    (23:13:14) +Serpentine: Amarillo unsilenced.
    (23:13:16) +Oh So Shoddy: And the silence seems fucked
    (23:13:22) Lightning Saix: wait
    (23:13:25) Lightning Saix: the fuck?
    (23:13:34) +[LD]Jirachier: King Eternal explain yourself
    (23:13:35) +[LD]Jirachier: right now
    (23:13:45) +King Eternal: I told him not to unsilence
    (23:13:51) +Heather Star: So what
    (23:13:52) +King Eternal: simple explanation
    (23:13:52) +[LD]Jirachier: explain the whole situation
    (23:13:59) +[LD]Jirachier: I can"t judge just from that sentence
    (23:14:04) Player YSB (IP 129.100.211.191) is being overactive.
    (23:14:06) +Serpentine: Jira
    (23:14:10) +Serpentine: Eternal was silencing chat because of Conflict.
    (23:14:19) +Serpentine: Amarilo unsilenced because too many suers wanted to talk in the chat
    (23:14:23) +Serpentine: Eternal said to stop unsilencing
    (23:14:28) +Serpentine: Amarillo did not stop unsilencing
    (23:14:34) +Serpentine: After the second unsilence, Eternal chose to BAN Amarillo.
    (23:14:36) +Serpentine: End of story.
    (23:14:38) +Serpentine: No other warnings.
    (23:14:51) +Serpentine: The only warning was this: (23:11:11) +King Eternal: why are you cancelling Amrillo
    (23:14:53) +Serpentine: And then ban.
    (23:14:55) +Serpentine: That's it.
    (23:14:55) +[LD]Jirachier: in that case
    (23:15:01) +Heather Star: Lamp has the full log of all this
    (23:15:02) +[LD]Jirachier: speak to him in a PM and settle it
    (23:15:04) +[LD]Jirachier: don't fucking ban
    (23:15:26) +King Eternal: I unbanned after ban
    (23:15:35) +Amarillo Caballero: dude
    (23:15:35) +Heather Star: No i did
    (23:15:36) Lightning Saix: then why not just kick
    (23:15:40) +Amarillo Caballero: ...
    (23:15:41) +Heather Star: (22:12:53) ±Dratini: You unbanned Amarillo Caballero!
    (23:15:45) Charles Derwin changed teams.
    (23:15:46) +[LD]Jirachier: I don't want to see this kind of things happening again
    (23:15:48) +King Eternal: you ninja'd
    (23:15:56) +Heather Star: did you unban elements also?
    (23:16:27) +Oh So Shoddy: We mute ppl for suck my fucking duck and shit
    (23:16:30) +King Eternal: http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?12169-Ban-List-3&p=147362&viewfull=1#post147362
    (23:16:36) +Oh So Shoddy: Can't ban ppl for oh, you're kissing coyo's ass
    (23:16:37) +Heather Star: What has this place come to the past week?
    (23:16:37) +Heather Star: ffs
    (23:17:43) +Serpentine: You banned as a warning, Eternal?
    (23:17:46) +Serpentine: What in the name of fuck?
    (23:18:04) ±Blaziken: Krazy Conflic t was kicked and muted for flood. [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (23:18:11) Player Krazy Conflic t (IP 76.169.106.11) is being overactive.
    (23:18:22) +Oh So Shoddy: We need nixeagle for this fool
    (23:18:26) +Oh So Shoddy: :/

    -Erasing the normal indigo convos about conflict to save space-

    (01:01:48) +Serpentine: forums down
    (01:02:07) +Amarillo Caballero: really?
    (01:02:18) +Serpentine: yeah
    (01:02:21) +Serpentine: Also eternal
    (01:02:28) +Serpentine: Since you apparently missed it when I fucking bolded it in my earlier post
    (01:02:31) +Serpentine: (23:14:55) +[LD]Jirachier: in that case
    (01:02:31) +Serpentine: (23:15:01) +Heather Star: Lamp has the full log of all this
    (01:02:31) +Serpentine: (23:15:02) +[LD]Jirachier: speak to him in a PM and settle it
    (01:02:31) +Serpentine: (23:15:04) +[LD]Jirachier: don't fucking ban
    (01:02:34) +Serpentine: Two. Admins.
    (01:02:41) +Amarillo Caballero: It's still up for me
    (01:02:46) +Serpentine: hm
    (01:03:21) +Serpentine: yeah it was just me trying to post apparently
    (01:04:28) ±Blaziken: weragainstco.n.flict was kicked and muted for flood. [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (01:05:18) +King Eternal: Jirachier came
    (01:05:23) +King Eternal: at the last second
    (01:05:29) +King Eternal: not sure what you're trying to prove
    (01:05:58) +Serpentine: The fact that Jirachier also disapproved of your actions.
    (01:06:12) +Serpentine: Heather says you should be deauthed. What do you think about that?
    (01:06:13) +King Eternal: he was unaware of the situation
    (01:06:19) +Serpentine: Is she 'below' you like the rest of us mods are?
    (01:06:23) +King Eternal: Heather shouldn't even be considered "admin"
    (01:06:25) +King Eternal: sorry to say

    (01:06:38) +Heather Star: And you should?
    (01:06:43) +Heather Star: With your abuse?
    (01:06:45) +Serpentine: She does hella lot more work around here than you do.
    (01:06:47) +Amarillo Caballero: that's pretty egotistical of you
    (01:06:59) +King Eternal: said nothing about if I do
    (01:07:06) +Heather Star: You abuse more than any staff members anywhere ive seen
    (01:07:12) +Amarillo Caballero: You should go back to smogon please
    (01:07:24) +Heather Star: I still haven't forgot this: http://pastebin.com/hxgZKCDX
    (01:07:56) +King Eternal: I've already explained that
    (01:07:57) +Heather Star: 2 admins disapprove then also
    (01:08:04) Player rofllol74 (IP 108.72.45.28) is being overactive.
    (01:08:32) +Heather Star: You acting all high and mighty like you can do whatever you wany
    (01:08:46) +Serpentine: King Eternal
    (01:08:53) +Serpentine: Just who the fuck DO you consider being an admin ,then?
    (01:09:27) +Amarillo Caballero: why the "King" part anyway?
    (01:09:31) +King Eternal: Jirachier is an admin
    (01:09:35) +King Eternal: Lamperi is an admin
    (01:09:41) +King Eternal: they've been admins for a very long time
    (01:09:44) +King Eternal: as well as CM
    (01:09:47) +King Eternal: who was an owner
    (01:09:51) +Serpentine: Alright
    (01:09:52) +Serpentine: So
    (01:10:00) +Serpentine: Now that Jira has heard the full story
    (01:10:06) +Serpentine: Or do you still consider him not informed?
    (01:10:26) +King Eternal: and what was his opinion?
    (01:10:41) +Ozma: Pokemon.
    (01:10:48) +Heather Star: With that logic how do you consider youself an admin?
    (01:10:49) +Amarillo Caballero: He said Why the fuck did you ban Amarillo?
    (01:11:01) +Serpentine: ^this
    (01:11:02) +Serpentine: and
    (01:11:12) +King Eternal: to stop you from unsilencing
    (01:11:18) +Serpentine: (00:12) [LD]Jirachier: Yeah well I don't know why he's been made admin after that shit
    (01:11:18) +Serpentine: (00:12) [LD]Jirachier: and my guess they'll just give it back to him
    (01:11:25) +Serpentine: You know eternal
    (01:11:28) +Serpentine: there are these things called words
    (01:11:33) +Serpentine: they're pretty fucking good at conveying your meaning
    (01:11:45) +DarkDiglett: words are too easy though
    (01:11:54) +Serpentine: He needs bans!
    (01:12:20) +Heather Star: To make himself feel powerful
    (01:12:41) +Vintage Books: ah
    (01:12:53) +Vintage Books: this takes me back to the time you abooses and kicked plat and i from the server
    (01:13:01) +Heather Star: Yup
    (01:13:05) +Heather Star: which oak deauthed
    (01:13:13) +Serpentine: and then dn reauthed
    (01:13:18) +Serpentine: for no reason
    (01:13:19) +Vintage Books: ^
    (01:13:19) +Serpentine: at all
    (01:13:27) +Heather Star: It should have remained
    (01:13:28) +Serpentine: Also heather check your god damned pm.
    (01:13:29) +[LD]Jirachier: Here is my opinion, Amarillo shouldn't have just went for the unsilence before talking to Eternal but Eternal banning him was way too much
    (01:13:29) +King Eternal: heh
    (01:13:34) +King Eternal: there was reason
    (01:13:40) +Serpentine: Eternal
    (01:13:48) +Serpentine: If Coyotte admitted it was a mistake to ban Kokoloko for ck
    (01:13:50) +Vintage Books: eternal, no one agrees with you
    (01:13:55) +Serpentine: What fucking right did you have to ban Plat, eh
    (01:14:02) +King Eternal: it wasn't a mistake for coyo to ban Koko
    (01:14:09) +Serpentine: But he said it was.
    (01:14:17) +Vintage Books: coyo said it was a mistake
    (01:14:17) +King Eternal: do you know why?
    (01:14:18) +Vintage Books: he admitted it
    (01:14:27) +Serpentine: It doesn't matter "why"
    (01:14:29) +King Eternal: because you guys decided to take it overboard
    (01:14:34) +Serpentine: The point is, Coyotte said it was not the right thing to do.
    (01:14:40) +King Eternal: even know coyo had the full right to do what he did
    (01:15:01) +King Eternal: so he thought it would better for him to apologize
    (01:15:08) +King Eternal: and forget
    (01:15:49) +Serpentine: Just because you're able to do something, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
    (01:16:01) +Serpentine: But, coyotte set a precedence of ck and bans.
    (01:16:09) +Serpentine: Which you proceeded to violate not a week later
    (01:16:14) +Serpentine: And guess what happened? Oak deauthed you.
    (01:16:27) +King Eternal: I was unaware of those precedence
    (01:16:38) +Serpentine: Really?
    (01:16:45) +King Eternal: yea, tbh
    (01:16:49) +Serpentine: I'm pretty damn sure that Coyotte making a topic about it to apologize sets a precedence.
    (01:17:01) +King Eternal: as you can tell
    (01:17:06) +King Eternal: I don't get myself involved in drama
    (01:17:09) +King Eternal: I ignore it
    (01:17:16) +Heather Star: You didnt think
    (01:17:24) +Heather Star: Banning an auth would make drama?
    (01:17:31) +Heather Star: ....
    (01:17:40) +King Eternal: it was temporary
    (01:17:42) +Ozma: Serp I'mma ban you. Is that okay? Will everyone be happy?
    (01:17:44) +Amarillo Caballero: My job is to moderate the chat in an effective manner which I tried to do immediately upon getting online. You have a history of trolling users and I was trying to do the correct thing by helping clean up that mess.
    (01:17:48) +Vintage Books: oh so a temp ban makes it better
    (01:17:49) +Serpentine: It's a ban, Eternal.
    (01:17:50) +King Eternal: there's no harm
    (01:17:51) +Ozma: It'll be ignored and forgottena bout right?
    (01:17:53) +Ozma: :o
    (01:17:54) +Serpentine: Hey eternal
    (01:17:57) +Serpentine: I'm going to kick you now
    (01:18:02) +Serpentine: IT's temporary
    (01:18:04) +Serpentine: so there's no harm
    (01:18:05) +Serpentine: right
    (01:18:07) +King Eternal: if you have a reason for it
    (01:18:17) +King Eternal: I had a reason
    (01:18:17) +Ozma: xDDDDD!
    (01:18:21) +Serpentine: My reason is you abusing your ban powers against Amarillo.
    (01:18:37) +Serpentine: Who agrees?
    (01:18:37) +King Eternal: it was used to stop him
    (01:18:37) +Amarillo Caballero: Your reason was shallow
    (01:18:43) +Serpentine: Hey eternal
    (01:18:45) +Serpentine: There are these things
    (01:18:46) +Serpentine: called words
    (01:18:48) +Serpentine: And warnings
    (01:19:01) +King Eternal: I wouldn't warn a mod
    (01:19:02) +Amarillo Caballero: you could have told me explicitly the situation, I had just logged on and was trying to be a good moderator
    (01:19:04) +King Eternal: that would be foolish

    (01:19:07) +Serpentine: (01:19:01) +King Eternal: I wouldn't warn a mod
    (01:19:08) +Serpentine: HOLY
    (01:19:08) +Amarillo Caballero: since you have trolled users in the past
    (01:19:09) +Serpentine: FUCK
    (01:19:10) +Serpentine: THERE WE GO
    (01:19:21) +Vintage Books: fuck this.
    (01:19:24) +DarkDiglett: ^
    (01:19:40) +King Eternal: warning a mod is like telling him he doesn't know what he's doing
    (01:19:53) +DarkDiglett: lets ban them instead, right?
    (01:19:54) +Amarillo Caballero: heh
    (01:19:57) +Vintage Books: guys i dont think we can get through to eternal, he wil just say something even more ridiculous and bs
    (01:19:57) +Heather Star: Well by that
    (01:19:59) +Serpentine: Eternal
    (01:20:00) +Serpentine: Stop right there.
    (01:20:04) +Heather Star: If he just logged on
    (01:20:11) +Heather Star: He wouldnt kno whats going on anyway
    (01:20:15) +Serpentine: You said that since you are an admin, you know better than us mods, correct?
    (01:20:16) +Heather Star: why not tell him?
    (01:20:23) +King Eternal: never said that
    (01:20:26) +Vintage Books: how would amarillo learn if you just banned him
    (01:20:28) +Serpentine: brb getting quote
    (01:20:34) +Amarillo Caballero: yeah 5 secs plox
    (01:20:54) +Vintage Books: if you did that to all new mods no one would know shit
    (01:21:06) +Amarillo Caballero: If I was Professor Oak or an owner and I had silenced the chat, would anyone have dared unsilence it without first asking a simple question, why? Most likely not unless you wanted to get yourself de-authed or banned. But of course I am none of them, but I should be at least given as much respect as them when I make authoritative decisions.
    (01:21:10) +DarkDiglett: they would all be banned :(
    (01:21:27) +King Eternal: where does it say that I am better than mods?
    (01:21:35) +Vintage Books: also, the other day i unsilenced after serp silenced it, and he didne kick or ban me, he said to me that i shouldnt do that again, and its nice to ask permission. and i learned from my mistake
    (01:21:49) +Vintage Books: thats how things should work
    (01:21:57) +Amarillo Caballero: okay fine I'll get a different quote
    (01:21:59) +Amarillo Caballero: ok?
    (01:22:09) +King Eternal: go ahead
    (01:23:52) +Amarillo Caballero: Like seriously, how are you going to go against a higher auth's decision of silencing the chat.
    (01:23:55) +Amarillo Caballero: brb getting more
    (01:24:33) +King Eternal: that is true though
    (01:24:41) +Serpentine: ah that's the one I was looking ofr and failing miserably at finding
    (01:24:45) +King Eternal: why would you go against my decision of silencing the chat?
    (01:24:51) +Serpentine: Because it was stupid.
    (01:24:55) +DarkDiglett: ^
    (01:25:03) +Serpentine: YOU YOURSELF admitted it wasn't working.
    (01:25:12) +Serpentine: Heather herself said "we should stop silencing it"
    (01:25:21) +Amarillo Caballero: I had been an auth more than twice as long as most of you here. I contributed an immense amount of work into Pokemon Online and what it is today.
    (01:25:28) +Vintage Books: banning was just fucking overboard. even if amarillo was in the wrong
    (01:25:33) +Heather Star: He already said he doesnt care what i tihnk
    (01:25:37) +Serpentine: King Eternal
    (01:25:41) +Serpentine: Here's the bottom line.
    (01:25:50) +Serpentine: You abused your powers by -BANNING-
    (01:26:01) +Serpentine: That is the main issue here.
    (01:26:06) +Serpentine: Not whether or not Amarillo went against you.
    (01:26:11) +Serpentine: But you abused. your. power.
    (01:26:11) +King Eternal: I have been silencing the chat long before you guys even earned your powers
    (01:26:18) +King Eternal: I know when to silence
    (01:26:21) +King Eternal: and when not to
    (01:26:22) +Heather Star: lol i bet
    (01:26:23) +DarkDiglett: this is like
    (01:26:24) +Serpentine: Cool
    (01:26:25) +Vintage Books: that makes no difference eternal
    (01:26:28) +DarkDiglett: arguing with a rock
    (01:26:32) +Heather Star: You never did mod once
    (01:26:33) +Vintage Books: the time you have had auth means nothing
    (01:26:33) +Serpentine: and the KKK was lynching black people since 1930
    (01:26:36) +Heather Star: Back in the day
    (01:26:39) +Serpentine: Were they right every time they did it
    (01:26:40) +Serpentine: no
    (01:26:42) +Serpentine: k
    (01:26:57) +Serpentine: terrible example I know
    (01:26:59) +Serpentine: but it fit.
    (01:27:02) +King Eternal: <_<
    (01:27:27) +Ozma: The bottom line is we're mods and an admin, he don't give a shit, nothing's going to happen until the owners get on, it'll get sorted out unfavorably.
    (01:27:40) Blimlax changed teams.
    (01:27:43) +Ozma: Not to sound bleak.[/HIDE]

    TL;DR:

    Eternal constantly silences tohjo. Amarillo unsilences. Eternal bans Amarillo 10 seconds after asking him "why are you unsilencing"
     
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  2. Eternal

    Eternal こんにちは。

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    I like how you bolded stuff in order to demean me.
     
  3. Ozma

    Ozma Grunt in the machine

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    I think it was for the sake of quick and easy reference, to see what was important and what was not.
     
  4. Serpentine

    Serpentine Member

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    What Ozma said.
     
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